Mark - I personally doubt it. But I made that most misunderstood comment to Craig in a discussion of blue laser DVD using advanced codecs. I was actually thinking of something like 4:4:4 AVC or VC1 at 25-30 mbps which could hopefully do it quite well, especially for 24fps movies. (If those are even going to support 4:4:4 encoding). - Tom Mark Aitken wrote: > I am not sure that one could get reasonable quality HD MPEG video for > 1080p 4:4:4 inside an ATSC OTA (with trellis coding) bitstream (~18Mb/s > video). Not sure of any MPEG coding system that could do that...comments > anyone? > Tom Barry wrote: > > >>As that's two posts correcting me now I guess I better clarify my >>sloppiness. The "it" that I was claiming we couldn't currently see was >>the full glory of 4:4:4 1080p and not referring to seeing the difference >>between the lower resolutions bandied about. >> >>- Tom >> >>John Shutt wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>3 out of 4 programs on PBS's HD schedule are actually widescreen SD >>>upconverted to 1080i. The difference is very noticeable. >>> >>>John Shutt >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Doug McDonald" <mcdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>Just because we couldn't see it on almost all current displays (1080i or >>>>>720p fixed) doesn't mean we shouldn't do it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>That last is false ... it CAN be easily seen, and noticed, >>>>as it is actually AVAILABLE TODAY, almost every day. It >>>>is visible on Fox OTA TV. It is clearly inferior to true HD 720p. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >>> >>>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >>>FreeLists.org >>> >>>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >>>unsubscribe in the subject line. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: >> >>- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at >>FreeLists.org >> >>- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word >>unsubscribe in the subject line. >> >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.