[vicsireland] Re: Apple Lion Operating System! and Apple and Irish
- From: Dónal Fitzpatrick <dfitzpat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 17:56:55 +0100
Hi there,
Dealing with the question about the voice first. In theory there's no reason
it couldn't be done. There are also third party voices, not made by Apple
available for the Mac. Infovox market voices made the Acapela company for use
on a Mac.
Ok now dealing with your specific question about the web. You can explain it
this way, and I'll try to relate visuals that a sighted user can see to how a
voiceover user gets the same information.
Safari has a toolbar running across the top of the screen. It has buttons like
back, forward, the place where you type the address etc. Below this is the
area where the web-page appears. Now how voiceover differs from jaws, is that
you have to "interact" with each separate area of the window. So to read a
webpage, use vo-right-arrow til you hear the voice saying "html content". Now
interact with this area but pressing vo-shift-downarrow. Then use
vo-right-arrow to read across (and down) the page.
There are shortcut keys your daughter can use, but this will do to get her
started.
Loads of other mac users might have things to chip in here but I reckon that
should be enough to get her up and running.
All the best,
Dónal
On 21 Jun 2011, at 17:48, maree grogan wrote:
> Hi Dónal,
>
> Thanks for anwering. Its my daughter's she's wondering how to navigate web
> pages, i.e. get from Google up at the search bar down down the page, if she
> wants to log on to the sites in the search results. I think she knows that
> about pressing h twice, its just a bit of an information overload at first. I
> was reading the comment of Robbie about Ailbhe Ní Chasaide and the Irish
> synthesis. They put the Irish voice on the free NVDA screenreader for my
> daughter for Windows. Do you think there is any chance that the Irish
> Language Voice could be put on an Apple Mac or even the Apple I phone? I
> noticed you said you were involved with Apple.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Maree
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Maree
>
> --- On Tue, 21/6/11, Dónal Fitzpatrick <dfitzpat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> From: Dónal Fitzpatrick <dfitzpat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Apple Lion Operating System!
> To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, 21 June, 2011, 17:25
>
>
> Hi Marie,
>
> What voiceover commands are you having difficulty with? The most useful
> command is to hold down the voiceover keys and press h twice. Every single
> commmand is contained in a menu structure.
>
> Feel free to post questions here though, plenty of us use macs and are only
> too delighted to respond and show these boring windows users what a real
> computer and screenreader can do! :-)
>
> Cheers
>
> Dónal
> On 21 Jun 2011, at 09:48, maree grogan wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> --- On Sat, 11/6/11, kerie doyle <kerie.doyle1987@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Do you think it would be possible in the future if training days are being
>> held by Vics to organise some training on this for Apple Mac Users or
>> potential Apple Mac Users. We have been looking into it, and there are a lot
>> of Voice Over commands etc, and its a bit challenging to figure it out,
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Maree
>>
>>
>>
>> From: kerie doyle <kerie.doyle1987@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Apple Lion Operating System!
>> To: "vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Saturday, 11 June, 2011, 18:00
>>
>>
>> Hi Paul and Donal
>> Donal it's cool your an apple developer, and paul, thanks for posting
>> that link i'm so excited for lion now.
>> Is anyone else concerned that they're not going to be selling lion on
>> disc or thumb drive? i mean, what if you need to reinstall for some
>> reason?
>> Just my thoughts Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 10/06/2011, at 10:19 PM, Dónal Fitzpatrick <dfitzpat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Paul,
>>>
>>> I'm in the Apple developer programme and I've seen and played with a beta
>>> version. I'm sorry but part of the developer programme's t&cs is a
>>> non-disclosure agreement so I can't actually discuss the finer points. It
>>> is nice though. There are still bugs to be ironed out but on the whole,
>>> leaves windows for dead. But then, most things do.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Dónal
>>> On 10 Jun 2011, at 21:40, (Lists) Paul Traynor wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> The new Apple Lion operating system looks set to be something else. Here's
>>>> the link:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html#accessibility
>>>>
>>>> Paul.
>>>>
>>>>
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