[vicsireland] Re: New phone
- From: "Tim Culhane" <tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:33:23 +0100
Hi Donal,
I was aware of these two methods.
Presumably the new approach will remove the need for any second taps at
all. I believe this new method is already available on the iPad.
Will be interesting to see if it is found to be beneficial.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dónal Fitzpatrick
Sent: 10 June 2010 11:26
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: New phone
Tim,
You are correct in that two taps are necessary. However there are two
techniques for doing this:
1. Flick one finger across the screen until the required letter is found.
Then double tap the screen. 2. flick the finger across the screen until the
required letter is found, then (keeping the finger in place) tap with a
second finger anywhere on the device. This second method is known, probably
unsurprisingly as "split tapping".
Cheers
Dónal
-----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Culhane
Sent: 10 June 2010 08:55
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: New phone
Hi Joan Ann,
I don't have an IPhone, but as I understand it you have to highlight the
letter you want and then tab a second time to actually insert it in
the text.
The new approach will mean you can run your finger across the keyboard,
and when you have found the letter you want, you simply lift your finger and
it gets inserted. This removes the need for the second tap.
Again, this is just my impression of how it works, I could be wide of the
mark as I don't use the iPhone.
Tim
-----Original Message-----
From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joan Ann Brosnan
Sent: 10 June 2010 08:40
To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: New phone
Hi Tim
What do you mean by the presence of
touch typing using the on screen keyboard? Is that not how the current
IPhone operates?
Joan Ann.
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From: "Tim Culhane" <tim.culhane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2010 8:12 AM
To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: New phone
> Hi Joan Ann,
>
> If you consider buying the iPhone then you might be better waiting
> for
> the
> new version which I believe should be available in Ireland some time in
> July.
>
> Improvements includes 40 percent longer battery life (a must for
> smart phones these days) and accessibility improvements such as the
> presence of
> touch typing using the on screen keyboard (which I imagine can only
> make
> texting much quicker).
>
> Of course, if you want to get the existing phone it will likely be
> significantly discounted in price, so that would be the cheaper
> alternative.
>
>
> The downside is you'll be locked into a 18 month contract and the
> monthly tarriff (with bill pay) would be a bit higher.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joan Ann
> Brosnan
> Sent: 10 June 2010 00:09
> To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: New phone
>
>
> Hi Donal and Tony
> Thanks a million for getting back to me. I am strongly thinking of
> going with the Iphone. I think the fact that you can buy a phone with
> speech already installed and
> working with many applications is cool.
> I am with Vodafone. As a matter of interest, do you both have a bill
> phone?
> Donal, I might have a few questions for you on Saturday if you don't mind.
>
> Joan Ann.
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Tony Murray" <tony@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 8:38 PM
> To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: New phone
>
>> Hi Joan Ann,
>>
>> I agree with everything Dónal says below.
>>
>> You have a flying start with the iPhone if you're already happily
>> using the iTouch.
>>
>> A few other points to note about using the iPhone:
>>
>> Good Stuff:
>> - Once you get in to downloading Apps, and using the many many
>> features of the iPhone... You'll wonder how you did without it for so
>> long!
>> - Carrying out many of the operations on the iPhone is actually
>> quicker than scrolling through the old clunky menu systems on the
>> Nokia phones. This becomes very apparent when you get to know where
>> to find/expect things on the screen.
>> - The speech quality is easier on the ear than Eloquence.
>> - Voiceover is far more stable than Talks, in this humble user's
>> opinion.
>> - Once you get your iPhone, you can sell your iTouch!... The IPhone does
>> everything the iTouch does, and more.
>> - To adjust the volume of Voiceover, you simply use the control on the
>> edge of the phone (this is one of the few 'real' sets of buttons).
>> - If you get lost, or confused, or in any way unsure you can simply press
>> the 'Home' button which is the other tactile control. This brings you
>> back to your home screen... Very handy when first getting to know the
>> iPhone.
>> - Isn't buying a device with all your accessibility features built in
>> just
>
>> far nicer than having to get additional software after buying your
>> new phone?
>> - The iPhone is the ultimate accessory!
>>
>> Bad stuff:
>> - The speech comes through a speaker located on the bottom of the
>> iPhone, close to where you talk in to. This takes a little getting
>> used to, especially if you're using the phone in a noisy environment.
>> Of course, you could use the included Apple headphones/Remote Control
>> as an alternative.
>> - The battery life is notoriously bad. Apparently this is to improve on
>> the new version of the iPhone, which comes out at the end of June AFAIK.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tony
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dónal Fitzpatrick" <dfitzpat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 7:52 PM
>> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: New phone
>>
>>
>> Hi Joan ann,
>>
>> I've been using an iPhone now for several months and wouldn't swap
>> it. However, there are a few things that are significantly different.
>> I'll summarise here, but if you need more info feel free to contact
>> me off-list.
>>
>> 1. text-messages.
>>
>> This is probably the most significant difference between the iPhone
>> and "traditional" phones such as the Nokia n-series. In essence
>> there are two
>
>> things:
>> a) they are organised into conversations. This took me some time to
>> get used to.
>> B) due to the nature of the device text input is different. However
>> if you are used to the iTouch, and have, for example browsed the web,
>> you'll have no difficulty.
>>
>> 2. making calls.
>>
>> Again this is significantly different owing to the nature of the
>> device. What is different is that the iPhone is not just a phone, but
>> is a PDA. So there is actually an application that you go into to
>> make the calls. Navigating around this takes a bit of getting used
>> to, but again as you are familiar with the touch you shouldn't have a
>> problem.
>>
>> Oddly enough, the thing that gave me most trouble wasn't actually
>> making the calls, but dealing with those automated phone systems.
>> Because you're
>
>> device is based on a capacitive touchscreen, you have to hold the
>> phone away from you (just as though you were texting) in order to
>> "press one to go on hold, press 2 to go insane waiting" etc. The
>> reason for this is that the touch capability is disabled when the
>> phone is held against the ear and at an angle which suggests that you
>> are having a conversation. Otherwise, contact with the ear might
>> trigger some of the buttons such as mute, call-hold etc.
>>
>> Apart from this, there are no major difficulties in my opinion.
>> Apologies for the length of the mail, as I said if you need more info
>> please feel free to pop me off a mail. Alternatively, I'l be at the
>> event on Saturday
>
>> so you can take a proper look at the iPhone if you wish.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Dónal
>> On 9 Jun 2010, at 17:01, Joan Ann Brosnan wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>> I am looking for some feedback as I need to buy a new phone.
>>>
>>> I was using the n86 which is a nice phone. I've only had it about 3
>>> months. I was having problems with the charger socket of the phone
>>> and so I sent it away but, I've been told that it can't be fixed and
>>> is not covered by a warranty.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know, What phones are currently available that work with
>>> talks?
>>>
>>> For those of you using the IPhone, would you recommend it as a phone
>>> and, do you find it easy to navigate with regard to making and
>>> receiving calls
>
>>> and sending text messages.
>>>
>>> I have an ITouch so, I'm familiar with the concept of touch screens
>>> and have no problem navigating it so, that won't be a problem.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any info
>>> Joan Ann.
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