HI, I would avoid upgrading to Safari 5 at the moment. From comments on the Macvisionaries list, it seems to be creating a few problems with voiceover. Particularly noteworthy is the fact that audible.com is causing the combination of Safari and Voiceover to crash. Secondly, people are reporting that large blocks of text are being randomly skipped. I've no idea how many mac users there are on the list, but hope this info helps. Cheers Dónal==========================================================The vicsireland mailing list To unsubscribe at any time send a mail to: vicsireland-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe", without the quotes in the subject of the message. To contact the moderator send mail to: tim.j.culhane@xxxxxxxxx For mor information on the Visually Impaired Computer Society visit: http://www.vicsireland.org