[access-uk] Re: Braille sign help!
- From: "Joan Muir" <wjmuir.twadugs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:15:49 -0000
George, I stand corrected!
Didn't I say Braille is confusing! That clarification from the BAUK website
is about as clear as mud. In actual fact, I've not yet come across the dot 4
sign ahead of "the".
Anyway, thanks very much indeed. Must keep an eye on that site in future.
Best wishes,
Joan.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 11:11 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille sign help!
> Hi Joan,
>
> If you go to BAUK's Publications page,
> http://www.bauk.org.uk/pubs/htm you will be able to download
> a copy of the latest version of British Braille in both PDF
> and braille formats. It's well worth keeping a copy to hand
> for such questions.
>
> Rule 7.2.11 on page 77 explains the new commercial "at" @
> sign introduced fairly recently.
>
> There is also a summary of changes available, where it says,
> and I quote:
>
> "15. A new sign for the commercial "at" symbol, dot 4 dots
> 2-3-4-6 has been added to the literary code (7.2.11). This
> allows simple email addresses to be transcribed directly
> without the need to resort to the computer code method (see
> point 7); nevertheless, BAUK recommends that the method
> using computer code indicators be the norm in most
> transcription circumstances as it provides a single method
> which is of general application.
> "
>
> And "Point 7" says:
>
> "7. The use of computer code indicators is included in
> British Braille (section 5.3), and a short list of computer
> code signs is included in 2.7. These are taken from the
> Braille Computer Notation. The main use is expected to be
> for the transcription of email and internet addresses, which
> will no longer require explanatory notes or ad hoc methods.
> However, as pointed out in 5.3.1, the use of this facility
> is not restricted to this area, and may be used wherever the
> greater precision in representing arbitrary sequences of
> characters without ambiguity is needed in a literary
> context. One difference from the Braille Computer Notation
> is that the default is for letters to be lower case (the
> opposite convention is currently used in Braille Computer
> Notation). This is now thought to be the more natural
> default position."
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> George.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Angela Bartram
> Sent: 17 January 2007 11:00
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille sign help!
>
> I don't feel quite so stupid now for not being able to find
> out! In one braille primer is says do4 + "the" sign and on
> the braille authority computer language page it says just
> "the" sign for @.
> =20
> Well my colleague has decided to put dot 4 + the, but
> explain to the recipient in case aren't sure what it is
> (many of them are not computer users, but we are doing some
> transcription and need to put everything in).
> =20
> Thanks all for your comments and suggestions anyway!
> Joan Muir <wjmuir.twadugs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The "the" sign only is used. No dot 4 at all.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Joan.
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "Christopher Hallsworth"=20
> To:=20
> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:01 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille sign help!
>
>
>> No, the "the" sign does not come after the dot 4 sign;
> it's just dot 4.
>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:53:55 +0000 (GMT), "Angela Bartram"
>> said:
>>> I think I've found it - dot 4 plus "the" sign- is that
> right?
>>> Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Dot 4.
>>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2007 09:30:26 +0000 (GMT), "Angela
> Bartram"
>>> said:
>>> > Can someone please tell me what the braille sign for
> the "at" sign @=20
>>> > is?
>>> > It should be obvious, but I'm not a braille reader and
> my knowledge is=20
>>> > a
>>> > bit rudimentary. Would appreciate a quick reply if
> someone can help- a
>>> > colleague is putting a letter into braille and needs to
> include an=20
>>> > email
>>> > address. Sorry for being thick- I really should know
> this one?
>>> >
>>> > Cheers,
>>> > Angela
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