Hi Wendy Thanks for that, it explains a lot. Just one more thing, What happened to the list, I haven't received any mail from the list at all since last night, strange! I was wondering if I had been unsubscribed for some reason. Regards Adrien You can get me off list at adriencollins06@xxxxxxx or adrien_collins@xxxxxxxxxxx Speakon is a free fully self-voicing accessible multimedia program for the visually impaired, find out more by downloading the software from: http://www.a-technic.net/speakon.htm You can join the speakon user group by sending a blank e-mail to: speakon-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of phil stephenson Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 12:16 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Bt total broadband - was ISP providers Hi Ali & all who've contributed to this thread, Well ok looks like I've come to a decision (hooray you say!) and that's to not go with Bt but instead to give the new o2 home broadband service a try. For £10 a month I will be getting freephone 24hr technical support at call centres based either in leeds or glasgow and an estimated speed of 14mb download - yes I know this this is just an estimate but they did assure me that they do a test for the first month and if the speed dips consistently below this they will refund the difference or allow me to downgrade to the basic package which is speeds up to 8mb, apparently the house where we'll be is very close to the main exchange in that area hence the good speed. anyway we'll see what happens, it is a new service so could find myself facing some of those early adopter issues but I must say I found them extremely helpful on the phone and not condescending in any way. so if you're an o2 pay-monthly customer and interested in switching ISP's then you might like to take a look via www.o2.co.uk. Thanks to you all for your input re this will let you know how it al goes as and when it's all set up. With thanks, Phil ________________________________ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of allykelly Sent: 31 January 2008 17:42 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Bt total broadband - was ISP providers Hi Phil, Might as well put my 2 p worth in here, BT are ok, the customer Service are based abroad and yes sometimes their English language communication skills are not great, even less aware from a visually impaired perspective. If you do decide to go with BT ensure you know the download speed of your line, they should tell you this prior to deciding which package suits you, I say this as my line can only handle 3.5 mb yet they happily sold me the up to 8mb package. I do recognise there is no package between the 2 mb and the 8 mb, but still feel it was a bit naughty not to tell me at the time of ordering. It was quite easy to set up but I did need sighted assistance to get the numbers from the router to secure the wireless connection. Good luck! Alistair ----- Original Message ----- From: phil stephenson <mailto:phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:45 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Bt total broadband - was ISP providers Terry, Thanks for your feedback, I suspected the anti-mob would outweigh the likes of yourself but well it's good to hear you've had no problems. many thanks, Phil ________________________________ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terry Clasper Sent: 31 January 2008 14:22 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Bt total broadband - was ISP providers Phil. I've always been happy with BT as my broadband provider. The hub manager software should you want to use it is fairly accessible once you get to know where stuff is and what unlabeled links relate to, and the hub phone is very usable looking very similar to a standard digital cordless phone with the 5 well marked and the pick up and hang up buttons large towards the top of the phone. Touching wood now, I've never had any down time with them since I started using the service around 5 years ago. I get around 4 MB download and 1 MB upload which in the scheme of things is ok. regarding there customer service, never had to use them which I guess is a good thing. Anyway sorry to the anti BT mob, I'm sure plenty will have other views. ----- Original Message ----- From: phil stephenson <mailto:phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 1:57 PM Subject: [access-uk] Bt total broadband - was ISP providers Hi me again! Ok think I'm closing in on my search for a new ISP provider! I have decided not to carry on with Tiscali as I've had real trouble with them over the past few days trying to speak to someone and getting some straight answers from them, the worst of which being this morning when I waited a good 10 mins to get through and just as I was being put t through got cut off, I then retried and got through but was told "due to a systems failure I would have to ring back tomorrow"...I was not happy! so of the others I have looked at I am still thinking of the new o2 service or the Bt total broadband top range option...of all the people I've tired to speak to today Bt were the most helpful and it was an 0800 number! so here's the question, what's people's experiences of using Bt broadband and receiving customer support from them, in particular does anyone out there use the Broadband talk option and if so how good is it and how accessible is the phone you get? I know I know there will be no doubt those of you who love Bt and those of you who will have thrown a fit at the mere mention of them but would be good to hear your recommendations positive or negative! thanks as ever, Phil __________ NOD32 2840 (20080131) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq