We have a truly weird situation here in the West Midlands. The concession here is administered by a QANGO known as Centro. Some local authorities subsidise the Centro £250 full pass so that in Birmingham, well until recently, you paid just over 30 quid for West Midlands wide travel. Neighbouring borough Sandwell obliges its residents to pay the full £250 whack for travel before 9:30. Other local authorities seem to come somewhere in between. I guess those hit the hardest by the less generous arrangements of some local authorities are the working low waged people who face another disincentive to take up more lowly paid jobs, and that's probably the majority of the minority of VI people who do happen to be working but aren't paid very highly. Naturally those who fare worst under this scheme of things feel most aggrieved, but as with blindness related campaigning generally this complaining doesn't surface outside the pub and into a more concerted and articulate demand. Guess this is rather off-topic here, but whatever your feelings about travel subsidies and concessions, people are bound, increasingly, to make comparisons with Scotland where the holy grail of free travel anywhere within its boarders seems to have become a reality. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Spooner" <mel.spooner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> I will actually be worse off with this new scheme as I travel before 9:30 in the mornings. They are replacing the half price pass I currently have with this off peak one. Mel ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq