[access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 07:10:59 -0000
Hi Ibrahim,
I certainly wouldn't argue with Freedom, as they are as you say a great
keyboard manufacturer, and I am sure they are right.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Ibrahim Gucukoglu
Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 07:06
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
Hi Steve.
I was just about to reply to Peter's email, I've never heard of a Bluetooth
keyboard working on the IFone since the Bluetooth implementation sucks, so
Peter, if your reading this then kindly tell me exactly what models of
keyboard work and what Bluetooth profile they use. If the IFone supports
the SPP (serial port profile), then it just might be possible to get a
keyboard working although the folks at Freedom who make the best keyboards
on the market in my view have told me categorically that until the IFone has
a better Bluetooth stack, the keyboard won't connect period.
All the best, Ibrahim.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:58 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
> Hi Hussein,
>
> First, the good thing about the iPhone is the fact that instead of
> arrowing
> around, things are placed in the same place on the screen, so once you
> remember where each icon is, it is straight forward.
>
> But typing really sucks big time. I can type faster than any iPhone user
> I
> have met, with a good Symbian phone, using the T9 predictive text.
> Sending
> texts with the iPhone is painful. Come to that, inputting any text is
> painful. But getting round menus and icons is OK. So productivity, no.
> Fun, yes. To me, it is a toy, and that's what it will remain. Besides,
> the
> Nokia N86 runs rings round it specification wise. Lets look at just a few
> of the downsides to the spec.
>
> 3MP camera? Oh, come on.
>
> Poor battery life.
>
> Bluetooth connectivity? What Bluetooth connectivity? They have only just
> started to support the A2DP protocol, and you can only use audio devices.
> So Bluetooth keyboards are out for the moment. And so are Braille
> Bluetooth
> Braille displays. So that completely alienates the deaf-blind.
>
> N86 on the other hand, has an 8MP camera, can connect up to five Bluetooth
> devices at one time, and the battery life is great. Braille display
> support
> is there too.
>
> Don't get me wrong, Hussein, I think Apple have done a great job at
> putting
> accessibility right into the operating system, but so many people tell me,
> especially blind people, how great the iPhone is, and I have seen nothing
> compelling to back this up yet.
>
> Anyone want to counter this, I'd be fascinated.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
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> Of
> Hussein Patwa
> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 19:25
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> Quite true Steve, as I did not know anyone who had used one beforehand to
> know better. Also, I fully admit to not having seen the gadget or any
> touch
> screen phone for that matter before, so was unaware how anyone would
> navigate it. Hence why I'm pleased to see your view on it. Noted your
> contrasting view of the iPhone. May I ask how you find the iPhone sucks
> in
> terms of productivity?
>
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>
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>
> Hussein.
>
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> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Steve Nutt
> Sent: 30 December 2009 17:41
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> Hi Hussein,
>
> You seem to make some assumptions here.
>
> I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch. It is not an efficient
> interface for the blind, but totally usable, and pretty well accessible.
> But Apple have designed voiceover so that it can be used by totals.
>
> It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone for example, as
> for
> productivity it really sucks big time in my view.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
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> Of
> Hussein Patwa
> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Thanks for your post. You're the first VI person I've come across using
> the
> Touch and I'd be fascinated at just how much of the functionality of the
> device you are able to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware. If
> you
> don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual sight to handle the
> touch interface? Would you say this is worth considering for others
> needing
> to look for a new media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever kicks
> the
> bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle?
>
> Now for your questions. For video conversion I use AVS Video Converter.
> It
> is a paid for solution but offers a wide range of presets you can choose
> from, including for iPods. It's also accessible with my Supernova screen
> reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification. No doubt someone
> will offer a free solution as I'm sure I've heard of one myself, but the
> name escapes me right now.
>
> HTH.
>
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>
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> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Steve Hyde-Dryden
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> OK Folks!
>
> Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for xmas! Yes, the new 32
> GB Ipod Touch. I've listened to a couple of podcasts re this and have got
> to grips pretty well with it's function and how to get around it. I have a
> couple of questions however. I know there is a more specialised list which
> T and T run but wondered if there were many on the list? Also, does anyone
> have the sub details?
>
> Now for my questions:
>
> 1 What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the ipod? I believe they
> need to be converted first, how do people find the accessibility of these
> conversion tools? Also, where can I get the most accessible one from?
>
> When I go into the music section of the front screen, is there a way to
> easily switch between artis, album and song views? How easy is it to set
> up
> play lists?
>
> Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are free? Also
> though,
> any paid ones which, again, are accessible?
>
> I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is to manipulate. As
> an additional question, how accessible are apple mac computers in general?
> presumably, there is more facilities in the full blown voice over ap? I
> hear it is akin to window eyes? So, does that mean you can get the list of
> links etc in safari?
>
> Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch? And my final question, How
> similar is it to the I-phone?
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Steve
>
>
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