Hi Steve, Yes, it does. The Touch is simply the iPhone without a phone, no more, no less. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Hyde-Dryden Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 11:12 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs Certainly Steve, on the Ipod touch safari ap, you can also navigate via heading or links using the rotation tool. I assume the I phone would do the same though, can't be sure as I don't have one smiles! Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:09 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs > Hi Peter, > > But because Facebook is laid out as headings, you can navigate with Talks > using single keypresses, and you can even search for text on a web page. > > Horses for courses. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Peter Holdstock > Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 00:12 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs > > Oh forgot to say that I find the facebook and ebay apps much easier to use > than the websites themselves as well. The big thing I like is that once > you > know the layout of the screens it becomes very natural to just put your > finger where you know the button orwhatever you want is. Using Talks I > couldn't do that, even if I knew where it was you still have to navigate > to > it. > > peter > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:05 AM > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs > >> Firstly, it's just the way they are implimented. Most apps have similar >> layouts and things that you get used to so finding your way around isn't >> hard. >> >> So far the useful apps I'm using include; >> * navigan GPS >> * Stocks and shares >> * reqall planner/management program which you use your voice to control >> * Sky + app to read the sky tv guide and control my sky + >> * Sky news and ITV news apps to watch the latest news >> * TV catch up to watch all the major channels in the UK including BBC, >> ITV, C4, C5 and lots more >> * Mail Plus to access my live mail account >> * relaxation software to help me sleep >> >> And I could go on. There are well over a hudnred thousand apps officially >> available for the iphone/ipod and it never gets boring as I can always >> have a look to see whats available. Many of the apps are free or cost >> less > >> than £2. >> >> There are lots of podcasts out there talking about it so have a listen to >> some of those. Just google iphone voice over >> >> Peter >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:21 PM >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs >> >>> can you tell us a bit more about the apps you use on the iPhone or >>> iTouch? And why you think they're better as you mentioned in an earlier >>> post. >>> >>> Thanks v much. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:19 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs >>> >>> >>>> I'd disagree and say it's a very good interface for the blind. The only >>>> downfall is the typing but now that apps such as dragon dictate are >>>> around that problem is solved. I can work much quicker using the >>>> iphone/ipod gestures then I ever could with Talks, having to try and >>>> move around a screen and navigate menus. >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:41 PM >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs >>>> >>>>> Hi Hussein, >>>>> >>>>> You seem to make some assumptions here. >>>>> >>>>> I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch. It is not an efficient >>>>> interface for the blind, but totally usable, and pretty well >>>>> accessible. >>>>> But Apple have designed voiceover so that it can be used by totals. >>>>> >>>>> It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone for example, >>>>> as > >>>>> for >>>>> productivity it really sucks big time in my view. >>>>> >>>>> All the best >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> All the best >>>>> >>>>> Steve >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>>> Behalf Of >>>>> Hussein Patwa >>>>> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32 >>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs >>>>> >>>>> Hi Steve, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your post. You're the first VI person I've come across >>>>> using the >>>>> Touch and I'd be fascinated at just how much of the functionality of >>>>> the >>>>> device you are able to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware. >>>>> If you >>>>> don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual sight to handle >>>>> the >>>>> touch interface? Would you say this is worth considering for others >>>>> needing >>>>> to look for a new media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever >>>>> kicks the >>>>> bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle? >>>>> >>>>> Now for your questions. For video conversion I use AVS Video >>>>> Converter. It >>>>> is a paid for solution but offers a wide range of presets you can >>>>> choose >>>>> from, including for iPods. It's also accessible with my Supernova >>>>> screen >>>>> reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification. No doubt >>>>> someone >>>>> will offer a free solution as I'm sure I've heard of one myself, but >>>>> the >>>>> name escapes me right now. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________ >>>>> Have a pleasant day, >>>>> >>>>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes, >>>>> >>>>> Hussein. >>>>> >>>>> Hussein Patwa >>>>> Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK) >>>>> Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP) >>>>> Skype: patwaspotterfan2 >>>>> GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter >>>>> Web: www.patwanet.co.uk >>>>> My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com >>>>> >>>>> Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486 >>>>> >>>>> Please note: For security reasons calls from witheld numbers may not >>>>> be >>>>> connected. Please release your number so it can be viewed prior to >>>>> calling. >>>>> Contact your telephone service provider for advice on how to do this >>>>> if >>>>> required. 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Save >>>>> paper by >>>>> deleting sections of the message which are not relevant. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>>> Behalf Of >>>>> Steve Hyde-Dryden >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM >>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs >>>>> >>>>> OK Folks! >>>>> >>>>> Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for xmas! Yes, the >>>>> new 32 >>>>> GB Ipod Touch. I've listened to a couple of podcasts re this and have >>>>> got >>>>> to grips pretty well with it's function and how to get around it. I >>>>> have a >>>>> couple of questions however. I know there is a more specialised list >>>>> which >>>>> T and T run but wondered if there were many on the list? Also, does >>>>> anyone >>>>> have the sub details? >>>>> >>>>> Now for my questions: >>>>> >>>>> 1 What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the ipod? I believe >>>>> they >>>>> need to be converted first, how do people find the accessibility of >>>>> these >>>>> conversion tools? Also, where can I get the most accessible one from? >>>>> >>>>> When I go into the music section of the front screen, is there a way >>>>> to >>>>> easily switch between artis, album and song views? How easy is it to >>>>> set up >>>>> play lists? >>>>> >>>>> Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are free? Also >>>>> though, >>>>> any paid ones which, again, are accessible? >>>>> >>>>> I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is to manipulate. >>>>> As >>>>> an additional question, how accessible are apple mac computers in >>>>> general? >>>>> presumably, there is more facilities in the full blown voice over ap? >>>>> I >>>>> hear it is akin to window eyes? So, does that mean you can get the >>>>> list of >>>>> links etc in safari? >>>>> >>>>> Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch? 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