[access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

  • From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:00:47 -0000

Hi Steve,

Yes, it does.  The Touch is simply the iPhone without a phone, no more, no
less.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Steve Hyde-Dryden
Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 11:12
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs

Certainly Steve, on the Ipod touch safari ap, you can also navigate via 
heading or links using the rotation tool.  I assume the I phone would do the

same though, can't be sure as I don't have one smiles!

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 7:09 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs


> Hi Peter,
>
> But because Facebook is laid out as headings, you can navigate with Talks
> using single keypresses, and you can even search for text on a web page.
>
> Horses for courses.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of
> Peter Holdstock
> Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 00:12
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> Oh forgot to say that I find the facebook and ebay apps much easier to use
> than the websites themselves as well. The big thing I like is that once 
> you
> know the layout of the screens it becomes very natural to just put your
> finger where you know the button orwhatever you want is. Using Talks I
> couldn't do that, even if I knew where it was you still have to navigate 
> to
> it.
>
> peter
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 12:05 AM
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
>> Firstly, it's just the way they are implimented. Most apps have similar
>> layouts and things that you get used to so finding your way around isn't
>> hard.
>>
>> So far the useful apps I'm using include;
>> * navigan GPS
>> * Stocks and shares
>> * reqall planner/management program which you use your voice to control
>> * Sky + app to read the sky tv guide and control my sky +
>> * Sky news and ITV news apps to watch the latest news
>> * TV catch up to watch all the major channels in the UK including BBC,
>> ITV, C4, C5 and lots more
>> * Mail Plus to access my live mail account
>> * relaxation software to help me sleep
>>
>> And I could go on. There are well over a hudnred thousand apps officially
>> available for the iphone/ipod  and it never gets boring as I can always
>> have a look to see whats available. Many of the apps are free or cost 
>> less
>
>> than £2.
>>
>> There are lots of podcasts out there talking about it so have a listen to
>> some of those. Just google iphone voice over
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:21 PM
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>
>>> can you tell us a bit more about the apps you use on the iPhone or
>>> iTouch? And why you think they're better as you mentioned in an earlier
>>> post.
>>>
>>> Thanks v much.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Peter Holdstock" <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 7:19 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>
>>>
>>>> I'd disagree and say it's a very good interface for the blind. The only
>>>> downfall is the typing but now that apps such as dragon dictate are
>>>> around that problem is solved. I can work much quicker using the
>>>> iphone/ipod gestures then I ever could with Talks, having to try and
>>>> move around a screen and navigate menus.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 5:41 PM
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hussein,
>>>>>
>>>>> You seem to make some assumptions here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch.  It is not an efficient
>>>>> interface for the blind, but totally usable, and pretty well
>>>>> accessible.
>>>>> But Apple have designed voiceover so that it can be used by totals.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone for example, 
>>>>> as
>
>>>>> for
>>>>> productivity it really sucks big time in my view.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
>>>>> All the best
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
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>>>>> Hussein Patwa
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your post.  You're the first VI person I've come across
>>>>> using the
>>>>> Touch and I'd be fascinated at just how much of the functionality of
>>>>> the
>>>>> device you are able to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware.
>>>>> If you
>>>>> don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual sight to handle
>>>>> the
>>>>> touch interface?  Would you say this is worth considering for others
>>>>> needing
>>>>> to look for a new media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever
>>>>> kicks the
>>>>> bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle?
>>>>>
>>>>> Now for your questions.  For video conversion I use AVS Video
>>>>> Converter. It
>>>>> is a paid for solution but offers a wide range of presets you can
>>>>> choose
>>>>> from, including for iPods.  It's also accessible with my Supernova
>>>>> screen
>>>>> reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification.  No doubt
>>>>> someone
>>>>> will offer a free solution as I'm sure I've heard of one myself, but
>>>>> the
>>>>> name escapes me right now.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH.
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>> Behalf Of
>>>>> Steve Hyde-Dryden
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs
>>>>>
>>>>> OK Folks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for xmas!  Yes, the
>>>>> new 32
>>>>> GB Ipod Touch.  I've listened to a couple of podcasts re this and have
>>>>> got
>>>>> to grips pretty well with it's function and how to get around it.  I
>>>>> have a
>>>>> couple of questions however.  I know there is a more specialised list
>>>>> which
>>>>> T and T run but wondered if there were many on the list?  Also, does
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> have the sub details?
>>>>>
>>>>> Now for my questions:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1  What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the ipod?  I believe
>>>>> they
>>>>> need to be converted first, how do people find the accessibility of
>>>>> these
>>>>> conversion tools?  Also, where can I get the most accessible one from?
>>>>>
>>>>> When I go into the music section of the front screen, is there a way 
>>>>> to
>>>>> easily switch between artis, album and song views?  How easy is it to
>>>>> set up
>>>>> play lists?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are free?  Also
>>>>> though,
>>>>> any paid ones which, again, are accessible?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is to manipulate.
>>>>> As
>>>>> an additional question, how accessible are apple mac computers in
>>>>> general?
>>>>> presumably, there is more facilities in the full blown voice over ap?
>>>>> I
>>>>> hear it is akin to window eyes?  So, does that mean you can get the
>>>>> list of
>>>>> links etc in safari?
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch?  And my final 
>>>>> question,
>
>>>>> How
>>>>> similar is it to the I-phone?
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve
>>>>>
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