[access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:03:54 -0000
Hi Carol,
I believe you go into Settings on the phone, then Accessibility and turn it
on. Or she can do it in iTunes.
All the best
Steve
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Carol Pearson
Sent: Thursday 31 December 2009 12:55
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
A friend has just got an iPhone so now I am curious to take a look myself.
She's not sure what she's doing on it yet so, how do I get the speech to
turn on so I can see what I get?
--
Carol
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---- Original Message ----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 6:58 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
> Hi Hussein,
>
> First, the good thing about the iPhone is the fact that
> instead of arrowing around, things are placed in the same
> place on the screen, so once you remember where each icon
> is, it is straight forward.
>
> But typing really sucks big time. I can type faster than
> any iPhone user I have met, with a good Symbian phone,
> using the T9 predictive text. Sending texts with the
> iPhone is painful. Come to that, inputting any text is
> painful. But getting round menus and icons is OK. So
> productivity, no. Fun, yes. To me, it is a toy, and
> that's what it will remain. Besides, the Nokia N86 runs
> rings round it specification wise. Lets look at just a
> few of the downsides to the spec.
>
> 3MP camera? Oh, come on.
>
> Poor battery life.
>
> Bluetooth connectivity? What Bluetooth connectivity?
> They have only just started to support the A2DP protocol,
> and you can only use audio devices. So Bluetooth
> keyboards are out for the moment. And so are Braille
> Bluetooth Braille displays. So that completely alienates
> the deaf-blind.
>
> N86 on the other hand, has an 8MP camera, can connect up
> to five Bluetooth devices at one time, and the battery
> life is great. Braille display support is there too.
>
> Don't get me wrong, Hussein, I think Apple have done a
> great job at putting accessibility right into the
> operating system, but so many people tell me, especially
> blind people, how great the iPhone is, and I have seen
> nothing compelling to back this up yet.
>
> Anyone want to counter this, I'd be fascinated.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
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> Patwa
> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 19:25
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> Quite true Steve, as I did not know anyone who had used
> one beforehand to know better. Also, I fully admit to
> not having seen the gadget or any touch screen phone for
> that matter before, so was unaware how anyone would
> navigate it. Hence why I'm pleased to see your view on
> it. Noted your contrasting view of the iPhone. May I
> ask how you find the iPhone sucks in terms of
> productivity?
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
> Sent: 30 December 2009 17:41
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> Hi Hussein,
>
> You seem to make some assumptions here.
>
> I am totally blind and I use the iPod touch. It is not
> an efficient interface for the blind, but totally usable,
> and pretty well accessible. But Apple have designed
> voiceover so that it can be used by totals.
>
> It's a good music player, but I wouldn't want an iPhone
> for example, as for productivity it really sucks big time
> in my view.
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
> All the best
>
> Steve
>
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> Patwa
> Sent: Wednesday 30 December 2009 02:32
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> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Thanks for your post. You're the first VI person I've
> come across using the Touch and I'd be fascinated at just
> how much of the functionality of the device you are able
> to use whilst remaining with the stock firmware. If you
> don't mind my prying, but you must have some residual
> sight to handle the touch interface? Would you say this
> is worth considering for others needing to look for a new
> media player (for example, if my iPod Video ever kicks
> the bucket) or would it be too difficult to handle?
>
> Now for your questions. For video conversion I use AVS
> Video Converter. It is a paid for solution but offers a
> wide range of presets you can choose from, including for
> iPods. It's also accessible with my Supernova screen
> reader, or easy to see if you are using magnification.
> No doubt someone will offer a free solution as I'm sure
> I've heard of one myself, but the name escapes me right
> now.
>
> HTH.
>
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> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve
> Hyde-Dryden
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 12:59 AM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Ipod Touch! and Macs
>
> OK Folks!
>
> Santa Claus brought me a great new little gadget for
> xmas! Yes, the new 32 GB Ipod Touch. I've listened to a
> couple of podcasts re this and have got to grips pretty
> well with it's function and how to get around it. I have
> a couple of questions however. I know there is a more
> specialised list which T and T run but wondered if there
> were many on the list? Also, does anyone have the sub
> details?
>
> Now for my questions:
>
> 1 What is the easiest way to get .avi files onto the
> ipod? I believe they need to be converted first, how do
> people find the accessibility of these conversion tools?
> Also, where can I get the most accessible one from?
>
> When I go into the music section of the front screen, is
> there a way to easily switch between artis, album and
> song views? How easy is it to set up play lists?
>
> Anyone got any suggestions for really cool aps which are
> free? Also though, any paid ones which, again, are
> accessible?
>
> I am pretty knocked out at how easy the touch screen is
> to manipulate. As an additional question, how accessible
> are apple mac computers in general? presumably, there is
> more facilities in the full blown voice over ap? I hear
> it is akin to window eyes? So, does that mean you can get
> the list of links etc in safari?
>
> Are there any more tutorials etc for the touch? And my
> final question, How similar is it to the I-phone?
>
> Best wishes.
>
> Steve
>
>
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