Many thanks Steve. That is abut what I thought, but had no evidence for. Regards, John Contact on : (Home) john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx or : (work) john.farley@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 21 October 2007 09:21 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Nokia Speech V Talks Hi John, It is kind of like the difference between Window-Eyes and Narrator. Narrator gives basic speech, but has virtually no configurability, whereas Window-Eyes does. Same with Talks. The inbuilt speech for Nokia, only reads out text messages, it does not read out the edit fields when you edit a contact for example, so it is pretty impracticable for a blind person to rely on it. Then there is the voice itself. Have you heard Nokia speech? Finally, Nokia speech only comes on while voiceaid is loaded. This is a Nokia application. Unload it and it is gone. It also won't autostart, so when you turn the phone on, no speech. You have to go into the menus and turn it on again. This is really a shortcut not worth taking. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Farley Sent: 20 October 2007 23:57 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Nokia Speech V Talks Hello list I have been asked by my blind sister about getting a phone, such as the Nokia T45, which has inbuilt speech on it. I don't know how much speech these give the user. I use Talks and can tell her about that. Does anyone know what the pros and cons are for each for a blind person? Thanks in advance. Regards, John John Farley Personal Contact Work contact Phone : 01442 259243 01442 227731 VOIPe : 01442 895132 Mobile: 07815 056076 07785 928755 Fax : 01442 227601 E-Mail: john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx john.farley@xxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq