Hi Eleanor Well I am as deaf as door post! Cannot hear speech at all. So Braille is my only way to access text messages And typetalk. Are you aware of typetalk? It's a telephone relay service that makes it possible For deaf, deafblind, and speech impaired people to receive and make Telephone calls from anyone. Regards, Derek -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 6:46 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sales and support staff's knowledage of braille Very expensive bit of kit though Derek for Braille messages but I think that perhaps yourself and Christine have hearing impairment too so of course braille is paramount. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 6:21 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sales and support staff's knowledage of braille > Hi Christine > No, I don't know Jackie, but having just > Checked old emails I find it was Lucy Naismith that did my first > Demonstration. I think she's sales manager for the North. > Martin is training manager. > > Were you impressed with DBC I love the idea of being abel to > Send and receive text messages in Braille. > > Regards, Derek > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Christine Weetman > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:43 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sales and support staff's knowledage of braille > > Hi Derek, wow, I've got the DBC from HumanWare and am due a training day > with Jackie Hall...I do hope this isn't the lady who can't read braille? > I > do understand that Martin Griffiths is a braille user as he was originally > coming to train me, but unfortunately became unwell...Maybe Stupidly in > panic, I asked for a female as I'm no use at listening to a deeper male > voice and wondered why I'd ever agreed a male for a whole day training, > sure > > it would have been a huge strain on me--but now, I'm wondering if I've let > go of a Really experienced person? > > I hope you or someone can reassure me I've done the right thing for me? > > Regards, Christine. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Derek Hornby" <derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 4:18 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Sales and support staff's knowledage of braille > > >> Hi Jackie >> I have changed subject line a I think there is room for a wider >> Debate on some issues here. >> I understand all you are saying and I was surprised nobody can read >> Grade 2 Braille. But then just a sec, maybe not surprised! >> >> Few weeks ago I had a demonstration by Humanware of a new >> Package aimed at the deafblind. They call is DBC I think >> Stands for deafblind communicator. >> Anyway the lady that gave me the demonstration didn't seem to know >> Braille! And this caused some confusion! >> >> So after that failed demonstration Alan Davis came to me, >> Not too sure if he knows Braille, but he certainly was far better >> At explaining what he was showing me. >> >> I am now told the trainer will be a guy called >> Martin (I forget his surname) works for Humanware in UK. >> >> A don't think a sighted driver would be happy for a car >> Salesman to be a non driver, so to a point I agree There is a need >> for those that sell Braille displays, to know Both grade 1 and 2 >> Braille. >> >> I do not accept the person must be blind, because there are >> Many sighted people out there that know Braille very well. >> Regards, Derek >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >> >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3196 - Release Date: 10/14/10 > 06:34:00 > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq Internal Virus Database is out of date. 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