[access-uk] Re: Tesco
- From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 17:48:26 +0100
lol re spelling error. The problem with assuming the lowest common
denominator is that many kinds of information just don't work in such
situations, and if the features weren't used they would simply become
unavailable. This would slow down those who invest time in learning how to
do things. Why should those people be held back? Yes, I agree that things
shouldn't be made more complex than needed, but sometimes simplicity doesn't
work. I also think some things are more logical on the new Tesco site than
the old!
Cheers
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Colin Fowler
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:33 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Tesco
from an expert users perspective, despite your spelling error too! Something
that I won't flame you for.
But accessibility and usability has to consider the lowest element of
expertise in visitor interaction, and that is important to remember.
Not being a TESCO customer whatsoever, I am only commenting on the
principals of accessibility and usability.
I would urge people to vote with your feet though if they are upset, TESCO
aren't the only grocer offering online shopping. Granted their quality of
food is dreadful and if that is what you prefer, then carry on.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 5:22 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Tesco
> Hi
>
> OK, let's look at either site assuming that a user is not in my position.
> Let's therefore assume they arrow or tab around every web page. On the old
> site, they would encounter add butons etc before products even started
> being
> listed, and then again not until the end of the page. Now, they get one
> where it makes sense. How are they to know that the buttons would be
> duplicated?
>
> The complaint has been not in the main from basic users, but from ones who
> use accessibility features in screen readers who have found the change
> difficult. I have not argued that the new site is perfect, but that it
> does
> work and is accessible, and has advantages over the old one!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> Colin Fowler
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 3:10 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Tesco
>
> Dave,
>
> I think that you are missing the whole principal behind accessibility and
> usability. You are evidently access technology savvy, but the whole
> principal of accessibility and usability is ensuring that content is
> available to everyone no matter there skill, the technology or browsers
> they
>
> use.
>
> Don't defend Tesco and others just because you have the competence and
> training to adapt your use of their content.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:55 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Tesco
>
>
>> Now there we have it! I've managed to make a new thing work for me, but
>> I'm
>> talking rubbish because others can't! How nice and constructive that is!
>> Let's bring everybody else down rather than learn to deal with something!
>> It's a wonder anybody helps us when people display attitudes like this!
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Scott C
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 2:48 PM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Tesco
>>
>> Just shows there's always one.
>>
>> Given that tesco them self's say they know there's a problem your talking
>> lets say rubbish.
>>
>> Ta Scott.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dave Taylor - Email Address: dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent On: 07/07/2010 06:39
>> Sent To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Email Address: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Tesco
>>
>> Sense at last! Well done you!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dave
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> whizza
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010 1:58 PM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Tesco
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I've used the new Tesco access site for about three shops now and
>> although
>
>> I
>>
>> found the first one very time-consuming and difficult, I've got the hang
>> of
>> it now and don't really have a problem with it at all. Just my thoughts.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sandra.
>>
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