But only one person per household, will have the licence details!
Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Shaun O'Connor
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 11:18 PM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Tor Project, was Betternet.
No doubt Auntie will require the hapless user to enter their licence
number when attempting to access iplayer services supplimneted by a
string of"security questions" to identfy the validity of the licence,
rather messy since at current the licence is based not on the name of
the holder but the premises at which a tv receiving device is normally
in use and installed.
Therefore the critiron for tv licence validity will have to change
from
being valid for a specified address to valid for a named person who is
habitually dimciled at a given address, and is registered as a legally
intitled resident of the UK. I bet Auntie sees a nice earner here if
she
can persuade the EU to accept a licence fee that applies not just to
the
UK but to the EU as a whole, oh what murky waters we are treading
theese
days.
On 29/11/2015 22:46, Les Smithson wrote:
There was a recent news story that the EU were going to oblige theBBC
to allow licence payers access to iplayer no matter where in Europedo such
they were located. In this case if proof of a licence is required to
access iplayer then fair enough.
I have a UK based VM, on which I'm able to set up a squid
proxy. Theoretically this allows me to access iplayer when I
travel. Allegedly.
Alex Stone writes:
> Amro, with you all the way here, I haven't found it necessary to
> things yet, but once the government decide that we all have toprove we
> have tv licenses in order to access BBC content, which it looksvery
> much like they're thinking of, then I may well choose to dosomething
> similar.you've had
>
> On 29/11/2015 21:50, Amro Bilal wrote:
> > Hi Shaun,
> >
> > Many thanks for this. Yes I understand, reading about how Tor
> > functions I wasn't sure it would work for this purpose. If
> > the chance to try and see how easy and accessible it is toroot your
> > traffic through a chosen IP/server that would be good.Presently I
> > have my VPN subscription but don't mind trying Tor if it cando what I
> > want.I'm a TV
> >
> > And just so I don't get replies on why it's wrong to do this,
> > licence payer so I don't see much harm in watching myfavourite TV
> > programs when I'm on a holiday!on its
> >
> > Best
> > Amro
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Shaun O'Connor
> > Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 8:13 PM
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Tor Project, was Betternet.
> >
> >
> > Amro
> >
> > although tor is usefull for accessing blocked sites it relies
> > effectiveness by not relying on external pluggins, thereforeit is
> > possible that tor may not be ideal for using with BBC iplayer( i can
> > possibly test that out though on my tor bundle and see if itworks.)
> > On 29/11/2015 19:44, Amro Bilal wrote:be used
> >> Hi Shaun, a question about Tor please. Can this VPN service
> >> to access sites that are locked to a geographical location?E.g. can
> >> one use Tor to access BBC iPlayer whilst traveling abroad? Ibrowsed
> >> the Tor Project site but couldn't find any mention of this.Thanks.
> >>there is
> >> Amro
> >>
> >> -----Original Message----- From: Shaun O'Connor
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:43 AM
> >> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Betternet.
> >>
> >>
> >> i'll research the ultrasonic stuff a bit and see what i find,
> >> almost certainly a US patent on the technology.times when you
> >>
> >> As for putting your phone in a microwave oven that is for
> >> are NOT using it, fyi even if your phone is"off" the built incamera and
> >> microphone can be remotely activated, so, don't leave yormobile device
> >> in the same place that you are likely to be holding a privateyou dont
> >> conversation.( or engaging in any other private activity that
> >> want used against you. however legitimate that activity maybe).
> >>be a good
> >> Coming back to the altrasonic snooping the EFF web site might
> >> place to start looking.link?
> >> On 29/11/2015 09:26, Les Smithson wrote:
> >>> How do I use my phone if its inside an oven?
> >>>
> >>> What's that about ultrasonic snooping? Can you point me at a
> >>> Google didn't come up with anything, or maybe GCHQ got tothem first.
> >>>about(that
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Shaun O'Connor writes:
> >>> >
> >>> > two usefull tactice
> >>> > 1) put your phone in a faraday pouch when out and
> >>> blocks rfdoor(same
> >>> > both ways)
> >>> > 2) place your phone in a microwave oven and close the
> >>> purposemake sure
> >>> > blocks rf both ways), however in the second scenario
> >>> you dostill
> >>> > NOT accidentally turn on your microwave with the phone
> >>> inside.potentially
> >>> >
> >>> > however in both instances ultrasonic technology can
> >>> bypasscompanies are
> >>> > this simple measure.(rumour has it that advertising
> >>> > exploring this area in a bid to defeat ever increesinglylistened to
> >>> sophisticated
> >>> > ad blocking tech)
> >>> > On 28/11/2015 23:56, Alex Stone wrote:
> >>> > > Didn't Edward Snowdon reveal some of this stuff? I
> >>> himvery
> >>> > > being interviewed on a podcast the other day, it was
> >>> interesting,switched off
> >>> > > just don't think that just because your phone is
> >>> theyidentiy
> >>> > > can't find anything out.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On 28/11/2015 23:53, Shaun O'Connor wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> It is already technically posible to unmask a persons
> >>> even ifexample
> >>> > >> anonymising sodftwere or services are used, as an
> >>> the torand
> >>> > >> network has been penetrated and wrongdoers discovered
> >>> appropriatewould
> >>> > >> action taken.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> to understand how unmasking is actually acheived
> >>> require a bookextent the
> >>> > >> in itself to explain the possibilities so, to some
> >>> > >> authorities" are already deeply embbedded in thesystem.
> >>> > >>virtue
> >>> > >> by their nature most VPN services are compromised by
> >>> of thepersonal
> >>> > >> fact tht a potential user is required to submit
> >>> informationidentity
> >>> > >> (either directly or indirectly) to the provider.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> however I'm only skimming the surface of how your
> >>> can bemuch
> >>> > >> compromised.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Turning to the legality of using such services it
> >>> depends whereoffence to use
> >>> > >> you are operating from, currently it is NOT an
> >>> vpnmoment.
> >>> > >> seercies in the UK but this could change at any given
> >>> thethe
> >>> > >> question that should be upper most on your mind is
> >>> purpose forpolitical
> >>> > >> which you intend to use the service. and the changing
> >>> > >> climate, todays acceptable use could be tomorrows"criminal"
> >>> activity.generally
> >>> > >> bear in mind also that your service provider can
> >>> determinecalled hidden
> >>> > >> if you are using a proxy service ( especially so
> >>> > >> services), and the very use of such services rendersyou as " a
> >>> > >> potential person of interest" to the authorities.being able to
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> Greetings,
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> My querie as to legality arose when I read about
> >>> > >>> access sitesimmediately-following link:-
> >>> > >>> anonymously and hide identities.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> I wonder how much longer it will be before those in
> >>> authority find a
> >>> > >>> way of
> >>> > >>> stopping anonymous access of any kind?
> >>> > >>>
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