[access-uk] Re: Windows Live Mail
- From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:31:30 -0000
Hi Moti
Not sure if there is a distinct advantage really see the post authored
by Ibrahim Gucukoglu for more info, but it may be Microsoft's thinking
that it is a base level default access for almost any device that
supports POP3 mail protocol (that means just about anything including a
lot of mobiles now). I can only say it works using POP3. I only know
this much because we had a library customer who were not getting on well
with Windows Live Mail and it turned out that this announcement had only
just gone by the previous week. Now their users can if they want use
Outloook Express when they pop into the library which many are familiar
with and don't have complex needs for their email. Personally I have
Live accounts (in addition to Gmail) that previously I could only use on
Outlook with Outlook Connector and therefore concsequently never used
them except when using the website, I can now use them on Mail for
Macintosh which is where all my personal email lives at home and if it
works using that it should do on practically anything else.
Regards.
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Moty Azrad
Sent: 23 March 2009 13:15
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Live Mail
Tristram,
Thank you for this important information.
Up to now, I used hotamil as http server and I try now using it with
pop3 server.
Do you think is there any improvement while using it as pop3 server and
not as http server?
I see now that all the messages are concentrated in the same inbox and
not more, another inbox.
Any more information is greatly appreciated
Moti
Moti Azrad
Musician & Piano Tuner
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ISRAEL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tristram Llewellyn" <tristram.llewellyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2009 1:21 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Live Mail
> There have recently been some interesting developments regarding
> Hotmail/Live email. For some time Microsoft have provided both a web
> presence and also communiation over some email clients using their
> proprietory protocol. For most screen reader users the preferrable
> option was to use a mail client to access this service using Outlook
> Express and certain versions of Outlook as well.
>
> Last year Microsoft informed users of Outlook Express that they would
> have to switch to using Windows Live Mail to continue with the free
> service using a Windows mail client. Until very recently this was the
> position I understood. However Microsoft appears to have opened up
the
> service so that Hotmail/Live mail can be access using standard POP3
> protocol without any charges.
>
> The practical upshot of all this is that those who were on XP and used
> Hotmail/Live mail can now go back to using Outlook Express. I have
> already set up two POP3 email clients this way with the information
> below and it certainly works. Furthermore those using a mobile phone
> should with a bit of effort be able to access the mail service using
> their phone as well. Here are some links which may help.
>
> Announcement of new pop3 support:
> http://mailcall.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!CC9301187A51FE33!49799.entry
> TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/bdy2ru
>
> Instructions etc:
>
http://windowslivehelp.com/solutions/settings/archive/2009/01/06/send-an
> d-receive-windows-live-hotmail-emails-from-a-mail-client.aspx
> TinyURL: http://tinyurl.com/dd6mvh
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
> Of Chris Hallsworth
> Sent: 23 March 2009 08:42
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Live Mail
>
> Eleanor Hotmail is free for us UK residents. If you're happy with
Gmail
> best to stick with it. I mean Hotmail's ok but... I'll see what I can
do
> with instructions.
>
> --
> Chris Hallsworth
> e-mail: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 10:14 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Live Mail
>
>
> I was told that Hotmail is not free Chris. How would I set that up on
> my
> phone please? Would you be prepared to give me an off list step by
> step. I
> have e-mail set up on my phone at present, it is pop3 bt and g mail.
>
> Eleanor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 9:40 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Live Mail
>
>
>> Also you can now set up Hotmail using their free pop/smtp service
> should
>> you
>> have that available in your country.
>>
>> --
>> Chris Hallsworth
>> e-mail: christopherh40@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> MSN: ch9675@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> Skype: chrishallsworth7266
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 7:43 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Live Mail
>>
>>
>> Hi.
>>
>> Yes, you can set up mail on your phone, you can either use a mobile
>> website
>> which is a scaled down version of hotmail or the windows live for
> mobile
>> application depending on your preference. Also, some phones allow
you
> to
>> set up hotmail through the phone's own interface but I couldn't tell
> you
>> whether this would be available on your model. It certainly is on
the
>> E71.
>>
>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Saqib
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 6:59 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Live Mail
>>
>>
>> Hi Ibrahim. Thanks for that explanation. I like this way of
> retrieving
>> e-mail as I can check them when ever it suits me on either machine
and
> I
>> don't feel obliged to run through them all in a mad hurry when I am
> short
>> of
>> time. I wonder if I can take it a step further and bring in Mail on
my
>> phone? I know pop3 works on phone but I've never tried Webmail.
>>
>>
>> From: Ibrahim Gucukoglu
>> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:42 PM
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Windows Live Mail
>>
>>
>> Hi Saqib.
>>
>> This is because Hotmail uses a protocol similar to IMAP where all
>> messages
>> are stored server side and not downloaded to your computer. If you
> moved,
>> read or deleted any messages from your inbox, those changes would
show
> up
>> on
>> all computers in to which you log in to your mail account, either
> using
>> mail
>> or hotmail on the web.
>>
>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Saqib
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 3:39 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Windows Live Mail
>>
>>
>> HI. I'm slightly confused about Windows Live Mail. I'm using my
> Hotmail
>> account and can't tell whether the messages are downloaded to my
> computer
>> or
>> not. The reason why I'm enquiring about this because I was checking
my
>> mail
>> this morning and left 20 messages in my inbox unread. Later on in the
> day
>> I
>> logged in to the Mail client and I got the messages in which I'd left
>> unread
>> on the other machine. I had the 20 messages in which I hadn't read
> this
>> morning plus the new ones that came in. This wouldn't happen with a
> pop3
>> account because downloaded messages can not be downloaded again on
> another
>> machine.
>>
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