Hi Jeff, I misread the subject title, sorry. I have the Victor stream which I think is great. It's very portable, and if I require, I connect it to bigger external speakers or connect it to my hi-fi and listen to it that way. Jim McAuslan from sunny Findhorn Minds are like parachutes they work best when open ----- Original Message ----- From: jeff flint To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:53 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: daisy players desktop version I ill am so limited I need a physical gadget, useless what? ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim McAuslan To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 9:16 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: daisy players desktop version Hi List, If memory serves me at all, isn't there a free humanwear desktop daisy player? Jim McAuslan from sunny Findhorn Minds are like parachutes they work best when open ----- Original Message ----- From: Iain Lackie To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: daisy players desktop version As far as the Plextalk is concerned, the answer is a resounding no. Iain From: jeff flint Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 2:28 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] daisy players desktop version I have a plextalk pocket which I like for the ease of access. I also have the plextalk PT1 from the rnib which I hate. Is there a desktop version with buttons which give the same ease of access as the Plextalkpocket? Jeff