[access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?
- From: "Damon" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:50:29 +0100
Yes, it's a shame isn't it.
I download illegally shared eBooks too because I can't read print.
Access to knowledge and culture is a human right and, I'd say we can't
really describe it as thievery. I'd describe it as taking something that
should rightfully be in our domain anyway.
It's only thievery if one can get it thru the normal means. If you are
denied access to it, yet fundamentally it should be a human right, then you
have to be creative and inventive about gaining access to it.
...Damon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Angel" <angel238@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 8:01 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?
> I would hate to think that to become a part of society one must resort to
> thievery.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 10:54 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?
>
>
> > I use exactly the same argument regarding downloading tv shows on
> BitTorrent. If the manufacturers and service providers of things like
TiVo
> and Sky Digital don't bother to make their products accessible then I'll
> steal their content from elsewhere in order that I can be part of this
here
> society. Thank you. And yes I'd be happy to see what a courtroom made of
> that too.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Tyrer, Jonathan
> > Sent: 13 April 2005 15:42
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?
> >
> >
> > I wonder if I should turn myself into the police for pirating music from
> the Net. None of the pay for music sites are accessible so I am forced to
> steal music instead. I'd like to go to court for that I think!
> >
> > JT
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of
> Damon Rose
> > Sent: 13 April 2005 15:30
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?
> >
> >
> > Here's another solution. Why don't we just all sue Apple? Or mail them
> in our droves? All the faffing around we have to do to gain a weeny bit
of
> access, whilst still giving these companies our money, really really bugs
> the hell out of me.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 13 April 2005 14:55
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?
> >
> >
> > Again, the problems of physical control of the item and the
accessibility
> of the software will be crucial. The iPod shuffle is a different sort of
> device, intended to have its contents changed on a daily basis rather than
> holding your entire music collection. It's early days still with these
> products, but the signs are encouraging.
> >
> > My choice is to get an IPod shuffle for now and leave the choice of
> hard-disk player and online music store for later.
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of
> Damon Rose
> > Sent: 13 April 2005 14:02
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?
> >
> >
> > But it's only an iPod shuffle, around a gig of memory, no hard drive.
> Admittedly it's reasonably priced tho.
> >
> > Sony already has an arguably much better product out on the market which
> has 3 times the battery power. It's in their Network Walkman range and
> called: NW-HD5. It has 20 gigs of storage and is said to be cheaper than
an
> iPod.
> >
> > Here's a link to a story about it (it goes over two lines so it might be
> better to cut and paste it into your browser address bar):
> >
>
http://www.digital-lifestyles.info/display_page.asp?section=platforms&id=2084
> >
> > Has anyone seen it? Felt itt? An iPod ain't exactly the most accessible
> of objects besides the software being inaccessible.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Carol Pearson
> > Sent: 13 April 2005 13:43
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?
> >
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > So you're saying the IPOD you have is completely workable for a blind
> person? Now we could be interested. . . ..
> >
> > (Sorry I haven't really followed this thread as, so far as I was aware,
> nothing was really good; so if you're saying it works for you then please
> confirm whether this is just to put software onto the IPOD, or can you
> choose everything you want to play? If the latter, how much can you store
> and please give full details of the IPOD
> >
> > Thank.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Steve Nutt
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:00 PM
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?
> >
> >
> > Hi Tris,
> >
> > I don't think you need the Itunes software, if you get the Ipod Explorer
> from Red Chair software. It makes the Ipod look just like another drive.
> >
> > All the best
> > --
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of
> Tristram Llewellyn
> > Sent: 12 April 2005 16:14
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?
> >
> >
> > Whilst iPod or iPod mini can come up as an external drive the actual way
> it stores and organises it's data is quite another bucket of freshly mixed
> mud since it is not human friendly. For this bit you need iTunes or
Anapod
> to help you do the organisation for you.
> >
> > I personally take a dislike to iTunes software but on the other hand
> cannot deny the ease of use in that it more or less automates the process
of
> feeding stuff in to synchronising with the iPod. Anapod can deal with the
> iPod but the experience is not so slick.
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Tristram Llewellyn
> > Sight and Sound Technology
> > Technical Support
> > www.sightandsound.co.uk
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mel Spooner" <mel.spooner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:26 PM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering whether it would be possible to connect the Ipod to the
PC
> without installing the software, and whether it would appear as a drive in
> Explorer. Then files could just be copied over? I have done this with a
> digital camera and wonder if it would work in the same way.
> >
> > Mel
> >
> > Mel Spooner
> > edIT Help Desk
> > Nottinghamshire County Council
> > Tel 0115 854 6116
> > Email mel.spooner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Tyrer, Jonathan
> > Sent: 11 April 2005 15:44
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] iPod shuffle ready to go?
> >
> >
> > There are some people who apparently have no sight and who say they can
> use and IPod without any problems. I looked at one of the click wheel
> models and think it would be next to impossible to do.
> >
> > So, the IPod shuffle seems the most suitable alternative. Designed
> without a screen, with a wheel with fixed functions, it seems perfect.
Plus,
> it's only £99.99 for a 1Gb version. Shame the accessories are so bleeding
> expensive.
> >
> > The problem with Ipods isn't really the hardware however. It's the
ITunes
> software that can cause you the most trouble. A lot of people have
reported
> that it is a swine with screen-readers. In fact, it is that bad that it
> won't even work with Apples new screen-reader they are bundling with the
> next release of there operating system.
> >
> > There is however a solution, Anapod explorer from red chair software.
This
> now supports the IPod shuffle and gives access to the shuffle like most
> other devices in Windows Explorer.
> >
> > Of course, you have to use another method of getting music onto your PC,
> but at least you can now get it onto an IPod and look cool!
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
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