[access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?

  • From: "yusuf" <yusufaosman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 16:53:25 +0100

Hi Mel, I have been using the Itunes software to get my music on to the Ipod. So far I have just used the menues to do this but there are shortcuts which were posted to the Jaws list sometime ago. (if anyone is interested I could post them here as well. Basically I press alt to get in to the menu (it doesn't appear to have a title that WE can read) and press curssor down till I reach add folder. I then enter a dialogue which looks like a standard windows open/save dialogue. You simply tab, shift tab around and press enter on the folder you want to add. You can also add multiple folders and subfolders.

I keep meaning to have a go at removing songs from my Ipod but because I've been really busy I haven't had a chance. But from what I have read to do this I willl need to make use of either WE's cursor or the Jaws equivalent.

Personally I have WE version 5 and use that as my main screenreader but I also have Jaws 5 on my system as well so I'm going to experiment a bit and see which of them is easier to use with Itunes. Its not the easiest bit of software to use by any means and Apple could have made a much better job of its design. Oh I'm sure it looks very nice if you can see it but obviously we can't.

As to using the Ipod itself it does take a bit of getting used to and its not for everyone. I use it in the following way:

When the Ipod is first turned on your located in a menue that has music at the top. To move round the menue you move your finger round the wheel. As you do this you here a clicking sound either from the Ipod, or the headphones or both depending on how you have it set. To select the particular option you press the enter key (or it might be called the select key) this is the slightly raised center of the wheel. Once you have reached the bottom or top of the menue (whatever menue it is) you can't go any further. The Ipod does not wrap around to the top. The music option is the first option in the top menu. Under this is located all the various ways to play your music, IE by type, album, artis, etc. Artis is the second option in this menu. After this you move in to a menu where all the artists are listed. The first option is all. I usually select this. Then I press play to begin playback of my music.

This means that I now have a playlist of everything on the Ipod by artist. To move forward in a track you press down on the right hand end of the wheel, to go back the left, to pause/stop the bottom and to move back to the previous menu (where you selected all artists) you press the top of the wheel.

It would be difficult to select a particular song or artist if you had a lot on an Ipod because you would need to remember the order of things. Some people may not like my method but it works for me just fine.

I also managed to copy my audible books on to the Ipod before I went away to Istanbul. That was easy also.

Hope this helps
Yusuf
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Spooner" <mel.spooner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 4:22 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?



Hi Yusuf,

How are you using it?  Which software are you using and which screen
reader?

Mel

Mel Spooner
edIT Help Desk
Nottinghamshire County Council
Tel   0115 854 6116
Email mel.spooner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of yusuf
Sent: 12 April 2005 16:14
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?


Hi Mel, It won't because Apple have not allowed this. I have read somewhere that there is a way of getting round this so that the Ipod can be used as an external drive but I haven't had a chance to look at how this would be done.

I am using the 40 GB model quite well so it is possible for me at least.
Yusuf
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Spooner" <mel.spooner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:26 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPod shuffle ready to go?



Hi,

I was wondering whether it would be possible to connect the Ipod to
the PC without installing the software, and whether it would appear as
a drive in Explorer.  Then files could just be copied over?  I have
done this with a digital camera and wonder if it would work in the
same way.

Mel

Mel Spooner
edIT Help Desk
Nottinghamshire County Council
Tel   0115 854 6116
Email mel.spooner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Tyrer, Jonathan
Sent: 11 April 2005 15:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] iPod shuffle ready to go?


There are some people who apparently have no sight and who say they can use and IPod without any problems. I looked at one of the click wheel models and think it would be next to impossible to do.

So, the IPod shuffle seems the most suitable alternative.  Designed
without a screen, with a wheel with fixed functions, it seems perfect.
Plus, it's only £99.99 for a 1Gb version.  Shame the accessories are
so bleeding expensive.

The problem with Ipods isn't really the hardware however.  It's the
ITunes software that can cause you the most trouble.  A lot of people
have reported that it is a swine with screen-readers.  In fact, it is
that bad that it won't even work with Apples new screen-reader they
are bundling with the next release of there operating system.

There is however a solution, Anapod explorer from red chair software.
This now supports the IPod shuffle and gives access to the shuffle
like most other devices in Windows Explorer.

Of course, you have to use another method of getting music onto your
PC, but at least you can now get it onto an IPod and look cool!

Jonathan

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