[AR] Re: ALASA canceled because... Mixed Mono

  • From: Ben Brockert <wikkit@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 16:18:39 -0500

I googled the diameter of a gnat's anus, but couldn't find an authoritative
source. I did find some electron microscope photos though, and I'd estimate
it at around 0.0002 inches. That may be sufficient.

Thanks for the source, Lloyd.

Ben

On Friday, December 4, 2015, Anthony Cesaroni <acesaroni@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hey, at least it gives you a window to try for. :-)



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Ben,



I found a better link for premixed LOX/CH4


Advances in Cryogenic Engineering: Volume 17 pg 188-191

Google Books Link
<https://books.google.co.nz/books?id=AuPgBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA188&lpg=PA188&dq=rocket+monopropellant+critical+diameter&source=bl&ots=SbfrBDrE_E&sig=uLH4JaNLJLz-tOYGw9JOVkMVcvQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi8n-Gr_cLJAhUjOKYKHVuaB3QQ6AEIKTAC#v=onepage&q=rocket%20monopropellant%20critical%20diameter&f=false>



TL:DR The critical diameter for LOX/LCH4 is less than 0.006" if it exists
at all.



Lloyd



On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Ben Brockert <wikkit@xxxxxxxxx
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Good to know, I'd forgotten that exchange. I return to thinking that
lox/ch4 monopropellant is completely crazy, not just mostly. Thanks!



On Wednesday, December 2, 2015, Nels Anderson <nels.anderson@xxxxxxx
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nels.anderson@xxxxxxx');>> wrote:

O'Hara et al. (1972) seem to believe it's basically zero:


http://www.freelists.org/post/arocket/LoxMethane-Monoprop-was-Paper-bounty-was-RE-monopropellants

By the way, does anyone know how to get a hold of the NASA
lox-methane-monoprop bibliography mentioned in the message linked to above?


On 12/02/2015 06:34 PM, Ben Brockert wrote:
Again only tangentially related, but anyone happen to have seen the
critical diameter of mixed LOX/Methane? I still think it's insane to
have it in a tank as a monopropellant, but mixing it and injecting it
into a thrust chamber through porous sintered metal or laser drilled
micro holes could give interesting results if it doesn't explode.



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