[AR] Re: [AR] “Transitioning space propulsion to a nitrous-based industry standard”

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 16:35:16 -0400 (EDT)

On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Ben Brockert wrote:

https://payloadspace.com/transitioning-space-propulsion-to-a-nitrous-based-industry-standard/ For me it plays loose with the truth a bit too much in order to strengthen its arguments...

For sure it's a bit, shall we say, slanted. "Storage pressures are relatively low compared to other propellant types"; exactly which types would those be? Compared to xenon, maybe, but nitrous isn't competing with xenon. The modest Isp of nitrous-based combinations, combined with big heavy high-pressure nitrous tanks, means that it simply can't give really substantial delta-Vs. (Even a flight-weight nitrous tank can easily weigh as much as its contents.) Xenon can.

Useful for some applications? Yes, I'd say so. The answer to all propellant problems? Um, no. The article is carefully picking its talking points, comparing nitrous's strengths to other propellants' weaknesses, rather than doing a careful fair comparison.

(E.g., sure it can get cold without problems... but try getting it hot and see what that does to your tank mass, given the way its vapor pressure rises. "Typical operational temperatures of 14-95F" are by no means the full story -- the outside air temperature at Kourou or Sriharikota can be above that range, never mind the temperature inside a fairing. It's not uncommon for people to require that a fully-fueled payload be able to survive +50C = 122F on the pad or during ascent.)

“Propellant storage: N2O is a pure chemical compound. It does not demix,
decompose, come out of solution, or crystalize. It does not degrade in any
manner and is, therefore, theoretically infinitely storable.“

Nitrous can be a pure chemical, but industrial nitrous that it talks about
elsewhere in the article isn’t. Nitrous obviously decomposes...

Even pure nitrous ought to have some slight spontaneous decomposition rate even at room temperature (although it's got to be pretty low if nobody's noticed it). "Theoretically infinitely storable" is a bit overstated.

There's nothing in this piece that's actually quite a lie, interpreted generously, but it stretches the truth frequently, and the overall picture it paints is rather too rosy.

Henry

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