[AR] Re: Falcon Heavy use cases

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 11:04:47 -0500 (EST)

On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, John Schilling wrote:

1. It is foolish to use anything but cheap, dense propellants in your Earth launch stage... 2. It is foolish to use anything but LOX/LH2 for your orbital insertion stage... 3. It is foolish to use different propellants on different stages... ...Elon has made his choice...

And given that Falcon 9 gets a substantial payload to GTO or a Mars trajectory with two stages of LOX/kerosene, and that we've just had a demonstration of how to get bigger payload and/or higher delta-V by just piling up more LOX/kerosene, I'd say the case for rule #2 is really a trifle weak...

*Provided*, that is, that you're designing the whole vehicle and there are no externally-imposed size constraints. LOX/LH2 looks much more appealing if you're trying to add an upper stage to an existing first stage, because that limits upper-stage mass, and LOX/LH2 definitely delivers more performance per kilogram (maybe not per dollar, but per kilogram, yes). Some of the LOX/LH2-upper-stage fixation from the 60s came about because both Centaur and the Saturn upper stages (as originally conceived) were being added to existing boosters (Atlas and Saturn I respectively). Another example is that LOX/LH2 is really appealing for air launch, where (unless you feel like spending a *lot* of money and time on aircraft development) your rocket is tightly constrained by what an existing carrier aircraft can lift.

Henry

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