[AR] Re: Hydrogen and oxygen used as pressurizing gasses

  • From: Steve Traugott <stevegt@xxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 08:39:31 -0800

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Uwe Klein <uwe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Am 13.12.2015 um 19:02 schrieb Steve Traugott:

Maybe I missed this, but has anyone tried a mini version of the ULA
IVF? Could use a modified R/C engine and flight-weight motor as
generator. Doing the math, I get about 100W from a 5cc engine using
conservative numbers; that's using a 4-stroke engine, brushed PM motor
and keeping the engine at lower RPMs to avoid the need for a gearbox;
brushless multiphase looks to be able to go higher with less weight and
added electronics. Total system weight appears to be around 2 Kg.


Look into torpedo drives. you probably have to add complexity from
recirculating exhaust gases.


I was thinking to dump exhaust overboard. Frank Zegler's paper talks about
using it for settling thrust.


A free piston generator could be of interest.


Or even free piston stirling generator. Double it and you've got a heat
pump.


Then
With LH2/LOX why go that way when you could use a fuel cell?
( for long duration ops I'd use the boil off energy for refrigeration?)


I wondered about that. With an IC engine, you do get higher-grade heat,
and shaft power for other uses.

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