[AR] Re: Re spacex falcon 9 landing

  • From: Rick Dickinson <rtd@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2015 08:50:04 -0800

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised *at all* if that was Elon's plan. After
all, he does want to go to Mars.

Cheers,

Rick Dickinson

On December 27, 2015 9:26:47 PM PST, David Weinshenker <daze39@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On 12/27/2015 09:13 PM, David McMIllan wrote:


On 12/27/2015 10:37 PM, Henry Vanderbilt wrote:

I would not be surprised if the balance for Falcon 9 turns out to
be,
lower stage reuse is profitable, upper stage reuse is not.

Short term, almost certainly correct. Longer term... hm. I
suspect that, on a pure cost analysis, that is likely to hold true
for
quite some time, barring any sudden new developments in propulsion or
materials. But I wonder... what if the market shifts? Right now,
there
seems to be a meme that riding on a "used" rocket is riskier than
riding
a brand-new expendable, but that doesn't really make sense, from a
broader perspective. What happens if the market starts to*prefer*
"broken in" rockets? Might externalities like lower insurance costs
and
regulatory hurdles close the business case for a reusable upper
stage?
Too early to say, but it'll be very interesting to see how the market
shifts over the coming decade, as we get experience with actual
recovered/refurb'd/reused booster stages.

If we ever get to the point of on-orbit propellant depots, it might
make more sense to keep the "used" upper booster stages in orbit,
and design space-operations configurations (long-distance exploration
missions, NEO tugs, etc.) around them (compared to trying to re-enter
them intact).

-dave w

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