[AR] Re: Star trackers at high altitude

  • From: Henry Spencer <hspencer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Arocket List <arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2023 14:30:11 -0400 (EDT)

On Sat, 1 Apr 2023, Jim Davis wrote:

"For an aircraft operating about 80,000ft, stars would be visible at all hours of the day. At that altitude the sky is black, not blue; the aircraft appears to be in space."

My first thought was that this couldn't be right; I was reminded of claims by moon hoaxers of why no stars were visible in photos taken on the moon. The lunar surface is so bright during the lunar day that it drowns out any starlight.

*If* some of the surface is in the camera field of view! Which it naturally is in the lunar-surface photos, since photographing the surface (or someone/something standing on the surface) is typically the point of the photo. That means setting the exposure short enough that the sunlit surface etc. isn't overexposed. With an exposure that short, yeah, faint things like stars simply don't show up, especially since photographic film has a rather limited "dynamic range" (the range of brightnesses it can reproduce).

(As do imaging systems with a small number of bits per pixel -- ordinary digital cameras usually have 8-bit pixels, but scientific instruments often have 10 bits or more because of this. Try photographing a black cat! Unless you can get just the right shot, with a fairly dark background, the cat tends to look like a black blob, with no visible detail. I'm told that the same thing can happen in pictures of people with very dark skin.)

Thinking on this further I began to have doubts. At 80,000 ft there is no dust to scatter sunlight and perhaps the aircraft would be far enough above the earth that the reflected light from the surface wouldn't be that bright.

The key issue is bright stuff *in the same field of view*. On Earth's surface in daylight, we've got that bright blue sky, which is scattering from the atmosphere (mostly from the air itself, not from dust -- even pure air is not actually 100.0000000% transparent). At 80,000ft, not so much, although I've heard the SR-71 sky described as being very dark purple rather than outright black.

We've tested spacecraft star trackers outside on clear nights. It works, even though the sky isn't as dark as it ought to be because of all the light pollution from Toronto.

And yes, spacecraft star trackers routinely work on daylit spacecraft -- it's just a question of not having any light-scattering surfaces in the field of view, and not having the field of view *too* close to the Sun (baffles help but are not perfect).

Can stars be tracked at that altitude during the daylight hours? If so, at what altitude does this become practical?

I wouldn't think it would be any problem. The Snark strategic cruise missile of the 1950s similarly used stellar-inertial guidance -- inertial updated by a star tracker, because inertial systems weren't then good enough to do the whole job -- and it had a ceiling of only about 50,000ft.

Henry

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