Re-entered 0016 UTC Apr 2 over South Pacific.
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Henry Vanderbilt <hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:
Meanwhile, unless anyone has a sighting report from South America, the
next indication whether it's still in orbit should come from Ascension
Island radar in a little bit.
Henry
On 4/1/2018 5:20 PM, William Claybaugh wrote:
I’m extremely skeptical that there are any facts known to Stratcom that
are not know to the team at Aerospace; differing floating point errors is
amusingly possible.
Bill
On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:15 PM Henry Vanderbilt <
hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
When I saw that I asked myself, what does Stratcom know that Aerospace
doesn't - or vice-versa. Better data on the vehicle structure, on
detailed atmospheric conditions, or both, would be one guess.
FWIW, it was on a short list of different-sourced predictions, and
those
two had by far the smallest stated uncertainties. And a 30-minute
disagreement. With Stratcom's differing in the direction Aerospace's
has been evolving as the end gets closer, which could mean something.
Or it could just mean they're running the same data into the same code
but with different floating-point packages.
Twenty minutes till Aerospace's midpoint, fifty till Stratcom's.
And as always with sims, of course, the real-world system being
simulated will to some unknown degree do what it darn well pleases.
Henry
On 4/1/2018 4:53 PM, William Claybaugh wrote:
> Stratcom has a capability independent from circle A? The very
point of
> Aerospace was to do this work so warfighters could focus....
>
> Bill
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 3:31 PM Henry Vanderbilt
> <hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
>
> Argue with Aerospace Corp, not me.
>
> FWIW earlier I saw mention of a Stratcom prediction showing it
a
> half-hour later than Aerospace. That'd put the center of the
window
> over Africa/the Middle east, FWIW.
>
> If we're still taking guesses for the pool, I'll go for a bit
over a
> half-orbit late, bringing it down right across China.
>
> Henry
>
> On 4/1/2018 1:38 PM, Monroe L. King Jr. wrote:
> > Naa I still say they are 4 hours off projected from
Henry's post.
> Unless
> > the space weather changes, that puts it very close to
tomorrow
> our time.
> >
> > Gonna be fun to see when and where. Any other predictions
based on
> > empirical data? Or a guess? Just for fun!
> >
> > Monroe
> >
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: [AR] Re: Tiangong Reentry Window Narrowing
> >> From: John DeMar <jsdemar@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jsdemar@xxxxxxxxx> <mailto:jsdemar@xxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jsdemar@xxxxxxxxx>>>
> >> Date: Sun, April 01, 2018 1:18 pm
> >> To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<mailto:arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ;<mailto:arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >>
> >>
> >> No fooling, it's coming in today. Refresh this page:
> >> http://www.aerospace.org/CORDS
uploads/TiangongStoryboard.png
> >>
> >> -John DeMar
> >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/jsdemar/
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:08 PM, Monroe L. King Jr. <
> >> monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:monroe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I say it overshoots by 8-12 hours maybe more.
> >>>
> >>> Monroe
> >>>
> >>>> -------- Original Message --------
> >>>> Subject: [AR] Tiangong Reentry Window Narrowing
> >>>> From: Henry Vanderbilt <hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> <mailto:hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:hvanderbilt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>>
> >>>> Date: Sun, April 01, 2018 8:34 am
> >>>> To: arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <mailto:arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:arocket@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> According to
> >>>>
>
http://www.aerospace.org/cords/reentry-predictions/tiangong-
1-reentry/
> >>>> as of a few minutes ago the reentry window for the
defunct Chinese
> >>>> station has narrowed to +- 2.5 hours either side of ten
after
> midnight
> >>>> UTC tonight.
> >>>>
> >>>> That's 2:40 pm to 7:40 pm this afternoon/evening, MST
(or PDT)
> (UTC-7).
> >>>>
> >>>> The general trend over the past couple of days has been
for
> the window
> >>>> to slide later, FWIW.
> >>>>
> >>>> Looking at the ground track, the current projected
middle of
> the window
> >>>> is way out over the Pacific. Alas for free local
fireworks,
> the overall
> >>>> window comes nowhere near North America. Southern South
> America, much
> >>>> of Africa, Central and East Asia, yes. As for you
Aussies,
> absent a
> >>>> major late change, no Skylab-Tiangong twofer. Oh well!
> >>>>
> >>>> I notice that a bit less than one orbit after current
projected
> >>>> mid-window, it'll be going right over the middle of
China,
> which could
> >>>> make for a spectacular show for the people who paid for
it.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Henry
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
>