[blind-democracy] Re: Ben Carson Says He's Against Abortion in All Cases, Makes Slavery Comparison

  • From: Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 17:07:00 -0400

But I'm not sure about that word, Islamist. I think it was coined by people
who lump all Muslims together, and assume they are terrorists. I don't like
to defame a particular religion by using its name when what I mean is an
extremist. The other appropriate word would be terrorist except that now
people have begun to use that word as if it were synonymous with Muslim.
Useage can get very tricky.

Miriam

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[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of R. E. Driscoll Sr
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 2:42 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Ben Carson Says He's Against Abortion in All
Cases, Makes Slavery Comparison


Miriam:

I tried to stay within the confines of previous usage, i.e., Muslim.

have long known that the problem with this world is its inhabitants not its
religions.

It would be a much more peaceful place if it were not for the population of
items we call people.

R. E. (Dick) Driscoll, Sr.


On 10/26/2015 1:09 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:


I think the correct word is extremist. They come from all religions,
Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc. We have a lot of Christian
extremists
right here in America and I wouldn't want any of them to become
president,
although some are running, and have run, for the office.

Miriam

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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of R. E.
Driscoll Sr
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:41 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Ben Carson Says He's Against Abortion
in All
Cases, Makes Slavery Comparison


Miriam:
Good points. I had forgotten about the 'Muslim' comment. Perhaps
he should
have said 'Islamist'.
R. E. (Dick) Driscoll, Sr.


On 10/26/2015 11:07 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote:


Ben Carson has also said that no Muslim should be President.
Substitute the
word :Jew" for that and how does it sound to you? He may
sound
better than
Donald Trump, but that's not saying much. I'd say that the
best
Republican
candidate we have is Hillary Clinton because the
Republicans, as a
sane,
respectable party, don't exist anymore. The Democratic Party
is what
the
Republicans used to be. Bernie Sanders and the Congressional
Progressive
Caucus are what the Democratic party used to be. Back in
those days,
the
Democratic Party had a southern wing which included all the
racists.
However, Reagan's southern strategy incorporated the
southern wing
of the
Democratic Party into the current Republican Party.

Miriam

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From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
R. E.
Driscoll Sr
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:15 AM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Ben Carson Says He's Against
Abortion
in All
Cases, Makes Slavery Comparison


All:

I happened to watch and listen to the TV News Show
referenced.

Ben Carson came across to me as being a thoughtful and
considerate
person
who has some very strong views about the social conditions
of today.

He is, in my opinion, a better candidate than Donald Trump
at this
point in
time.

R. E. (Dick) Driscoll, Sr.


On 10/26/2015 9:58 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote:



Ben Carson Says He's Against Abortion in All Cases,
Makes
Slavery
Comparison



http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/ben_carson_says_hes_against_abor
tion_in_all_cases_20151025/
Posted on Oct 25, 2015

NBCNews.com
Dr. Ben Carson isn't shy about making comparisons
with
slavery in
order to
draw attention to present-day socio-political issues
in
America, and
during
an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday,
he
invoked that
historical disgrace once again in reference to
abortion.
On the weekly news show, Carson, who's within close
range of
GOP
front-runner Donald Trump in the polls, spelled out
his
uncompromising
stance on the polarizing issue of abortion (via The
New York
Times):
The Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson
said Sunday
he
believed
that abortion should be outlawed even in cases of
rape and
incest,
comparing
the procedure with slavery.
"I would not be in favor of killing a baby because
the baby
came
about in
that way," Mr. Carson said on NBC's "Meet the
Press," citing
"the
many
stories of people who have led very useful lives who
were
the result
of rape
or incest."
Mr. Carson, who has not been shy about using slavery
and
Nazi
metaphors,
held up what he said was a historic parallel with
abortion.
"During slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought
that they
had the
right
to do whatever they wanted to that slave," said Mr.
Carson,
a former
brain
surgeon. "Anything that they chose to do. And, you
know,
what if the
abolitionist had said, you know, 'I don't believe in
slavery. I
think it's
wrong. But you guys do whatever you want to do.'
Where would
we be?"
Carson had previously drawn a parallel to slavery
when
discussing
Obamacare
two years ago, during a speech at the Values Voter
Summit in
Washington,
D.C., in which he said, "You know, Obamacare is
really, I
think, the
worst
thing that has happened in this nation since
slavery."
During his sit-down Sunday with "Meet the Press"
moderator
Chuck
Todd,
Carson also addressed his willingness to use the
Holocaust
and Nazi
Germany
to illustrate what he views as modern-day societal
dangers.
"Interestingly
enough, in the last several weeks I've heard from
many
people in the
Jewish
community, including rabbis, who have said, 'You're
spot-on,' "
Carson said.
Watch Carson discuss his stance on abortion, as well
as his
support
for
revoking Roe v. Wade, in the "Meet the Press" clip
below
(via NBC):
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Ben Carson Says He's Against Abortion in All Cases,
Makes
Slavery
Comparison



http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/ben_carson_says_hes_against_abor
tion_in_all_cases_20151025/
Posted on Oct 25, 2015

NBCNews.com
Dr. Ben Carson isn't shy about making comparisons
with
slavery in
order to
draw attention to present-day socio-political issues
in
America, and
during
an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press" on Sunday,
he
invoked that
historical disgrace once again in reference to
abortion.
On the weekly news show, Carson, who's within close
range of
GOP
front-runner Donald Trump in the polls, spelled out
his
uncompromising
stance on the polarizing issue of abortion (via The
New York
Times):
The Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson
said Sunday
he
believed
that abortion should be outlawed even in cases of
rape and
incest,
comparing
the procedure with slavery.
"I would not be in favor of killing a baby because
the baby
came
about in
that way," Mr. Carson said on NBC's "Meet the
Press," citing
"the
many
stories of people who have led very useful lives who
were
the result
of rape
or incest."
Mr. Carson, who has not been shy about using slavery
and
Nazi
metaphors,
held up what he said was a historic parallel with
abortion.
"During slavery, a lot of the slave owners thought
that they
had the
right
to do whatever they wanted to that slave," said Mr.
Carson,
a former
brain
surgeon. "Anything that they chose to do. And, you
know,
what if the
abolitionist had said, you know, 'I don't believe in
slavery. I
think it's
wrong. But you guys do whatever you want to do.'
Where would
we be?"
Carson had previously drawn a parallel to slavery
when
discussing
Obamacare
two years ago, during a speech at the Values Voter
Summit in
Washington,
D.C., in which he said, "You know, Obamacare is
really, I
think, the
worst
thing that has happened in this nation since
slavery."
During his sit-down Sunday with "Meet the Press"
moderator
Chuck
Todd,
Carson also addressed his willingness to use the
Holocaust
and Nazi
Germany
to illustrate what he views as modern-day societal
dangers.
"Interestingly
enough, in the last several weeks I've heard from
many
people in the
Jewish
community, including rabbis, who have said, 'You're
spot-on,' "
Carson said.
Watch Carson discuss his stance on abortion, as well
as his
support
for
revoking Roe v. Wade, in the "Meet the Press" clip
below
(via NBC):
</p><p>
-Posted by Kasia Anderson



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