[blind-democracy] Re: FW: DNC Used Barricades To Keep Nina Turner From Delivering Petition

  • From: Carl Jarvis <carjar82@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 17:17:02 -0700

Miriam,
Just goes to show you.  All it takes to set me off is a quick glance
at last years news.
I guess that sometimes my rants give the impression that I'm a purest,
but actually I think I understand enough about human nature to know
that none of us has the perfect answer.  Regardless of my belief that
trying to turn the corrupt Democratic Party into a People's Party is
an exercise in futility, I won't discourage those who believe it can
be done.  I presented my reasons for voting for Sanders in the
primary, and for Stein in the general election, but I never asked
anyone to refuse to vote for Clinton.  As it all turned out, it made
little difference.  But friends told me that a vote for Sanders or
Stein was a vote for Trump.  Others told me that a vote for Stein was
simply throwing my vote away.  In both cases my friends were
subconsciously telling me that I did not have the good sense, like
they had, to grasp the real situation.  In my mind, I was voting for
whom I saw as my best option.  The Media makes elections out to be
contests between individuals, when it should be discussing the
Platforms behind each candidate...or upon which each candidate stands.
My mother-in-law looked at the candidates for president a number of
elections back, and said she was voting for Bob Dole, "Because I like
his looks".  In the time I've been on this list, I've changed several
of my basic positions.  This is due to the constant presentation of
articles and information, and logical discussion and the raising of
questions.  We need, somehow, to return to a slower pace that allows
us the time for such things as Town Meetings, gatherings in our local
precinct, real in depth reporting in our papers and on TV and radio.
And to reach such a change in our priorities, we need support from all
 of the splinter groups on the Left.

Carl Jarvis


On 7/27/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

That happened last summer and the petitions were related to the platform of
the Democratic Party.  The big debate on the left has to do with whether,
given  the political and economic structure of the US, it's wiser to take
over an already existing party structure or whether it's better to start
from scratch. People on the left tend to be purists. They argue over every
point. Some people think the Green Party is too Bourgeois. Some argue over
which socialist party is politically correct. While everyone splits into
their little politically correct purist sects, carefully picking their
allies and enemies, the wealthy pragmatists win the war. Evangelicals ally
with a sinner and thief in order to have the power of The White House.
Republicans who cautiously separated themselves from Trum to begin with,
happily join him. The New York Times hires a climate denier as a columnist.
Even Amy Goodman has Syrian rebels allied with Al Qaeda on her program.

Miriam

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Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: DNC Used Barricades To Keep Nina Turner
From Delivering Petition

Considering that we people on the Left have no political party representing
us in congress, doesn't it seem more practical to take those signatures and
begin a Peoples Party, rather than bothering the Democratic Party, and
distracting them from their efforts to "Out Kiss" the Republicans in
smooching the backsides of Corporate America?

Carl Jarvis

On 7/26/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:




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Subject: DNC Used Barricades To Keep Nina Turner From Delivering
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DNC Used Barricades To Keep Nina Turner From Delivering Petition
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On July 25, Our Revolution President and popular Bernie Sanders
surrogate, former Ohio State Senator Nina Turner, went to DNC
headquarters in Washington DC to deliver a petition compiled by Our
Revolution with over
115,000 signatures in support of a people's platform.



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