Points taken, Miriam.
Of course you're right in inferring that what hangs in the balance
will determine how we behave. All you and I gained by voting for Jill
Stein was the privilege of saying that we voted for Jill Stein. But
if I lived in one of the swing states, that fact alone would impact my
thinking. Still, I privately believe that in those critical states
there was serious tampering with the ballot boxes, and Donald Trump
did not need the Russians to win. Like you, I am troubled by the
casual comments that it made no difference who took the White House.
Even though I have said that I have no dog in this fight, meaning that
none of the two finalists had any of my interests on their agendas, I
could tell the differences. Cripes! I tooted my horn for Bernie,
even considering his support of Israel and of the munitions
manufacturing corporations.
He, if congress could be budged to support him in the slightest, would
have been far better than Clinton. And after seeing the "Parade of
the Billionaires" escorted by Donald Trump into Washington D C, how
could anyone say there was no difference between them?
But on the broader scale, the ship of fools is sinking, and we working
class folk are without a paddle. We can splash about but in the end
we will go down with all hands on board.
Today is our Jefferson County Council of the Blind annual picnic.
Cathy is preparing her famous, always in demand, potato salad. I
always am tempted to put an "e" at the end of potato, in honer of
Knute...I think it was Knute...they all begin to look alike.
The weather is headed for the low 80's with blue skies. It's good to
gather with old friends, especially since most in our group understand
the threat we are under.
And now, just to round off my Down Day, I will go and watch a taped
edition of Alone...but don't tell on me.
Carl Jarvis
On 7/27/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Carl,
Your state of Washington wasn't a swing state, nor was my state of New York.
So I voted for Sanders in the primary, and for Stein in the Presidential
election. My vote for Stein was a purely selfish vote. I could reject
Hillary because I knew that she would carry New York, regardless of what I
did. However, I would not have had the luxury of doing that if I lived in
one of the swing states like Michigan, where Joe lives. That is because that
vote for President had little to do with who the nominee was and a lot to do
with the way in which government functioning would be influenced with a
Republican President. Most important, are the supreme court nominees, and
the nominees to lesser courts. And it is already very evident how the laws
are interpreted when the Right Wing has a majority on the supreme court. The
lives of real people are negatively affected. There is also a tone that is
set for the country, a set of values that are emphasized to the public. And
those values, voiced by a President and then magnified by other governmental
officials and the media, influences the behavior of our citizenry. There's
no denying that the powerful elites rule the world. However, there is very
definitely a difference in how the lives of average people are affected by
Democrats and Republicans. Like you, I also want fundamental changes. Like
Chris Hedges, I believe that our society is corrupted and dying. But I want
to hold onto and augment anything left that is positive and helpful. I've
heard Julian Assange and other people say that there was absolutely no
difference in voting for Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. I think that is
an insane statement on its face and besides, it really isn't the point. If I
believed that my vote for Jill Stein would have contributed in any way to
Trump's winning the Presidency, my guilt would have been overwhelming.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:17 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Bob Hachey <bhachey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: DNC Used Barricades To Keep Nina Turner
From Delivering Petition
Miriam,
Just goes to show you. All it takes to set me off is a quick glance at last
years news.
I guess that sometimes my rants give the impression that I'm a purest, but
actually I think I understand enough about human nature to know that none of
us has the perfect answer. Regardless of my belief that trying to turn the
corrupt Democratic Party into a People's Party is an exercise in futility, I
won't discourage those who believe it can be done. I presented my reasons
for voting for Sanders in the primary, and for Stein in the general
election, but I never asked anyone to refuse to vote for Clinton. As it all
turned out, it made little difference. But friends told me that a vote for
Sanders or Stein was a vote for Trump. Others told me that a vote for Stein
was simply throwing my vote away. In both cases my friends were
subconsciously telling me that I did not have the good sense, like they had,
to grasp the real situation. In my mind, I was voting for whom I saw as my
best option. The Media makes elections out to be contests between
individuals, when it should be discussing the Platforms behind each
candidate...or upon which each candidate stands.
My mother-in-law looked at the candidates for president a number of
elections back, and said she was voting for Bob Dole, "Because I like his
looks". In the time I've been on this list, I've changed several of my
basic positions. This is due to the constant presentation of articles and
information, and logical discussion and the raising of questions. We need,
somehow, to return to a slower pace that allows us the time for such things
as Town Meetings, gatherings in our local precinct, real in depth reporting
in our papers and on TV and radio.
And to reach such a change in our priorities, we need support from all of
the splinter groups on the Left.
Carl Jarvis
On 7/27/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That happened last summer and the petitions were related to the
platform of the Democratic Party. The big debate on the left has to
do with whether, given the political and economic structure of the
US, it's wiser to take over an already existing party structure or
whether it's better to start from scratch. People on the left tend to
be purists. They argue over every point. Some people think the Green
Party is too Bourgeois. Some argue over which socialist party is
politically correct. While everyone splits into their little
politically correct purist sects, carefully picking their allies and
enemies, the wealthy pragmatists win the war. Evangelicals ally with a
sinner and thief in order to have the power of The White House.
Republicans who cautiously separated themselves from Trum to begin
with, happily join him. The New York Times hires a climate denier as a
columnist.
Even Amy Goodman has Syrian rebels allied with Al Qaeda on her program.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 12:45 PM
To: blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: bhachey@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: FW: DNC Used Barricades To Keep Nina
Turner From Delivering Petition
Considering that we people on the Left have no political party
representing us in congress, doesn't it seem more practical to take
those signatures and begin a Peoples Party, rather than bothering the
Democratic Party, and distracting them from their efforts to "Out
Kiss" the Republicans in smooching the backsides of Corporate America?
Carl Jarvis
On 7/26/17, Miriam Vieni <miriamvieni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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