I wouldn't enjoy humiliating someone, even if that person deserved it. It's not
what gives me pleasure. I also don't enjoy watching other people fight, not
physically, and not verbally. Even if someone is showing that he is more
logical than the other person, I don't enjoy it because there's conflict and
hostility involved and I don't enjoy experiencing or observing conflict and
hostility. What I wish for everyone, is peace and harmony. That's what fuels
my interest in politics and international relations. I want people to take care
of each other, and respect each other.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey
(Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 9:53 PM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Those unwanted emails
Twitter doesn't give enough space to make an argument. I don't think it would
be of much use in that regard other than maybe trading short insults. But, as a
matter of fact, I did enjoy trouncing Mustafa. I have encountered enough
bullies in my life that it literally gives me joy to give as much as they give.
I generally do not like to be insulted, but when I got a torrent of insults
after backing Mustafa into a logical corner after he had so forthrightly
claimed that his position was the logical one I really did enjoy the insults.
Doing the same thing privately won't do. The bully tries to humiliate publicly
and doesn't care if no one observes his defeat. But publicly showing him up for
what he is can be another matter. And I knew from the start that I was going to
win this argument. It is an argument that I never lose. And I do not mean that
I never lose it in my own mind. I won right out there where you and everyone
else could see me winning. I will take on Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons at my
door on occasion and it is a bit fun to see them try to wrestle with questions
that they never thought of getting, but it is not really so much fun in the
long run. They are not actually trying to bully. That is more like those street
preachers do. And, besides, having done door to door work myself I am a little
bit sympathetic towards them. But when I can get a self righteous,
condescending, judgemental bully before an audience and take him down
decisively then that is a lot of fun. You ought to try it yourself. You don't
know what you are missing.
___
Emmett F. Fields “ Atheism is more than just the knowledge that gods do not
exist, and that religion is either a mistake or a fraud. Atheism is an
attitude, a frame of mind that looks at the world objectively, fearlessly,
always trying to understand all things as a part of nature.
” ― Emmett F. Fields
On 2/26/2021 9:12 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
Roger,
I never enjoyed those arguments. I didn't enjoy it when you argued back and I
doubt that anyone else except you enjoyed it. That was what I kept saying. It
is you who want to beat him in an argument. No one else cares. People may not
like his posts, but no one likes watching people fight on an email list.
Well, maybe some people do, the same kind of people who enjoy the fights that
go on, on Twitter. But what people are doing on Twitter, is showing off,
trying to get the better of each other, trying to show who's smarter. I think
they're all acting like narsissistic children.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Roger Loran Bailey
(Redacted sender "rogerbailey81" for DMARC)
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 7:53 PM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Re: Those unwanted emails
Well, Miriam, I don't respond to him anymore. I just send his messages to the
spam folder and delete them from there. But, yes, it is tempting to respond.
If he is looking for an argument I think I have proven that I can give it to
him and trounce him in the process. That can be fun.
And, yes, it is a lot of fun to humiliate a bully. It is fun to give a bully
back what he dishes out and watch how he can't take what he dishes out. I am
not doing it now because I am getting his messages from a personal mailing
list. When I respond I am sending messages to everyone on that list who are
already demanding that they be taken off of it anyway. If I did that I would
be doing the same thing to them that he is doing. I suppose I could check the
address fields and be sure that the message was going to him and him alone,
but that kind of takes the fun out of it.
___
Emmett F. Fields “ Atheism is more than just the knowledge that gods do not
exist, and that religion is either a mistake or a fraud. Atheism is an
attitude, a frame of mind that looks at the world objectively, fearlessly,
always trying to understand all things as a part of nature.
” ― Emmett F. Fields
On 2/26/2021 1:54 PM, Miriam Vieni wrote:
I can't imagine why you would be tempted to respond. He isn't writing those
emails because he wants real interchange of opinions. He writes them to
tempt people into arguments or sometimes, just to taunt.
Miriam
-----Original Message-----
From: blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<blind-democracy-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Carl Jarvis
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 12:00 PM
To: blind-democracy <blind-democracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [blind-democracy] Those unwanted emails
Maybe I have an answer to those unwanted email messages. Especially the
latest ones from "James Madison". Of course James Madison turns out to be
our old pest, Mostaafa. After responding to one of James(Mostafa)posts I
received a message from Google telling me that my email address had been
compromised. Then my email account was canceled. With the assistance of my
wife, we reestablished my google account, but it was a bit upsetting, since
I keep many files in Google. But the sneaky way Mostafa gets around posting
his unsolicited posts made me suspiscious that my reply and the Google post
that discontinued my email account were somehow related. Once again I will
resolve that, no matter how tempting, I will refrain from responding to
Mostafa, no matter what name he uses.
Carl Jarvis