[etni] Fw: re: 5 point cut-off grade
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From: a a <yebs@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: 5 point cut-off grade
We don't use a formal contract, but we do make this point clear to our
students from the beginning. At the end of tenth grade, I have the class
take a diagnostic exam, and anyone whose grades are problematic is moved to
the lower group for the next year, as it is less traumatic to the student.
If a problem develops in the eleventh grade, I think it's important to catch
the problem earlier in the year and either get extra help for the student or
have him move to another group at that point, rather than wait until you
have a formal magen score prepared.
Esther
Sara wrote:
> our 9th grade accelerated class- which so many of you helped me
> with -
> will start 10th grade next year. the idea, of course, is to do E in
> 10th grade, and F, G (the lit F if we need to) in 11th.
> i have heard of schools who have the kids and their parents sign a
> contract that they will do the bagrut in the 11th grade only if their
> magen ("school grade" ) is over a certain grade. otherwise, they will
> continue in the 12th grade with a regular 5 point class.
> do any of your schools do this? for E? or only for F, G? And if so,
> what is the "cutoff" grade? do you think it is a good idea?
David G. wrote:
> This is a question which has been bothering me for some
> time. I think that the answer hinges on what grade pupils
> need in 5 points to make it worthwhile doing instead of a 4
> point exam. I've been told by one source that the grade is
> 80 otherwise it is better to get a higher grade for 4
> points.
> I have an excel spreadsheet on my computer which allows me
> to calculate and predict final bagrut grades.
> What I try to impress on my pupils is that it is most
> important to get a high grade (over 90) on module E. This
> gives them a safety net for the rest of the exam. Assuming
> that they will do well on the Oral exam (if they don't, they
> shouldn't be 5-pointers) they will be able to afford to drop
> points on F and G -- this will probably happen as marks are
> deducted for writing mistakes in these 2 modules.
> So a grade of 92 in module E, 70 in F, 70 in G and 92 in the
> Oral comes out as a final grade of 80.
> I think that it is reasonable to expect this from a 5-
> pointer.
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