[etni] Fw: re: 5 point cut-off grade
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- Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 07:31:59 +0200
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From: Vera and Yacov Lachmanovich - lachmanovich@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: 5 point cut-off grade
Any grade above 65 average for 5 pts. is better than taking a 4 point exam.
The bonus for university is calculated as following:
5 x grade = bonus or 4x grade = bonus for 4 point students,
In other words: 5 x 65 = 325 whereas 4 x 80 = 320 or 4 x 90 = 360 (here the
4 point students gets a higher bonus than the weak 5 pointer ). However, the
chances that a student who will get 65 on a 5 point exam, will get a 90 on
the 4 pt. test, are not very high.
BUT: if a student gets less than 65 average in the 5 pt (or 4 pt.) exam, he
won't get a bonus at all!!!!
Vera
David wrote:
> This is a question which has been bothering me for some
> time. I think that the answer hinges on what grade pupils
> need in 5 points to make it worthwhile doing instead of a 4
> point exam. I've been told by one source that the grade is
> 80 otherwise it is better to get a higher grade for 4
> points.
> I have an excel spreadsheet on my computer which allows me
> to calculate and predict final bagrut grades.
> What I try to impress on my pupils is that it is most
> important to get a high grade (over 90) on module E. This
> gives them a safety net for the rest of the exam. Assuming
> that they will do well on the Oral exam (if they don't, they
> shouldn't be 5-pointers) they will be able to afford to drop
> points on F and G -- this will probably happen as marks are
> deducted for writing mistakes in these 2 modules.
> So a grade of 92 in module E, 70 in F, 70 in G and 92 in the
> Oral comes out as a final grade of 80.
> I think that it is reasonable to expect this from a 5-
> pointer.
Sara wrote:
> our 9th grade accelerated class- which so many of you helped
> me with-will start 10th grade next year. the idea, of course, is to
> do E in 10th grade, and F, G (the lit F if we need to) in 11th.
> i have heard of schools who have the kids and their parents
> sign a contract that they will do the bagrut in the 11th grade only
> if their magen ("school grade" ) is over a certain grade. otherwise,
> they will continue in the 12th grade with a regular 5 point class.
> do any of your schools do this? for E? or only for F, G? And
> if so, what is the "cutoff" grade? do you think it is a good idea?
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