[etni] Fwd: Fwd: : module f (literature) winter 2013
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I wrote that I jacked up the grades of those who had been working well!!
That's perfectly legitimate! How can you insinuate that that's
deceitful and is no different from saying we say we teach literature
when in fact we don't???
I really take offence at that!
The average mark on the test grade (without the tziyun shnati) in my
school - both of my class and a parallel class - was 82. I think you
should be able to infer from that that we taught some literature
before we thought about the yearly grade. WE ARE BOTH HONEST
TEACHERS!!!!
I have had the feeling for a long time that the MOE wants to push us
into the log, but as long as I'm on the job, I refuse to be pushed
into a situation where I know I'll have to deal with parental and
school management pressure over log grades, allowing kids to hand
assignments in late, redo weak assignments etc.
Could some of the teachers who are doing the log option come forward
and say what the average log grade is in their class.
Then perhaps our discussion could be more factually based.
jesg wrote:
> Although I am not Carmen, I would like to say that last year our
> English speaking students also took the Winter exam to prepare them
> for the Summer one.
>
> During the summer our staff reviewed the booklets - referring to the
> rubric answers and still we disagreed with several of the accepted
> answers. Yes, we wanted to appeal but our students asked us not to
> since the Summer exam went a bit better and they feared they might
> somehow be penalized.
>
> I don't know if Carmen used the word "regurgitate" in her comment. I
> know I said it and if you reread that section you will see that I said
> the students are being taught to " regurgitate the contents." I am
> terribly sorry I didn't tape the conversation where that was said by a
> "power."
>
> By the way how is "jacking up" the yearly grade different from NOT
> teaching literature at all but saying we did.... one of the claims why
> we need the lit. exam.
>
> My staff and I are extremely insulted by that claim. We loved teaching
> lit once upon a time. Our students enjoyed the experience and still
> remember a lot...I check up on them every t ime we meet!!! I repeat,
> our Hebrew literature staff was appaulled when they saw the exam and
> the rubrics for answers as were several MAs in English Lit that read
> them!
>
>
> Maxine wrote:
>>
>> Hi Carmen,
>> First of all, I'm not sure I understand the problem that you mention in the
>> last part of your email. The decision to have your pupils take the Bagrut
>> in the winter or summer is totally yours to make. If you felt your pupils
>> were not adequately prepared you could have waited until this May to have
>> them sit for the exam, no?
>>
>> As for your question as to how the exams are actually marked: well, all
>> the answer keys from previous exams can be found on the TLC site and this
>> winter's answer key will surely be there very soon for you to see. As a
>> senior marker of the F Literature exam I can say, however, that a major
>> problem is the bridging question. Pupils often regurgitate the contents of
>> the story or poem instead of making a connection between the new information
>> and the literary piece. Obviously I don't know if this was the case at your
>> school.
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