[etni] Re: Fwd: Fwd: : module f (literature) winter 2013
- From: קובי לביא <kobilavy@xxxxxxx>
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- Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2013 17:35:22 +0300
We are doing the log at my school and as the school's coordinator I strongly
oppose the literature exam. Our grades are on the spectrum that some other
teachers describe - the good ones get good grades (between 85-95) and the
ones who don't work regardless whether they are good or bad English
students, get lower grades and even failures. There is absolutely no
pressure what so ever from parents or the administration of the school
(schools who let parents or administrators interfere with their school
grades will do so with the log).
Furthermore, I just finished preparing a relative for the F exam and this is
a wonderful gifted student who gets above 90 in all of his E and G exams.
However when facing the F literature exam he gets really low grades.
I fail to understand why anybody would choose to do the F exam. Without
wanting to offend my colleagues, I think that when we are given the
opportunity to teach literature just the way we want it, we don't have to
be in some terrible pressure because the date of the bagrut is drawing
near... (we start teaching the log in 10th grade and submit it at the end of
11th grade), we can have as many creative tasks as we want with it - that's
what having fun in teaching literature is all about and the best part is...
the students know that what they work hard for and do throughout their study
affects directly their grade!!! Why not take the opportunity to give a
BAGRUT grade to our own students.
You're saying the the MOE is pushing us to do logs. Well I support this push
(if it really exists). For a very long time educators speak of alternative
assessment well finally we are given the opportunity to do it and what do we
do? We stick to our old ways and the students are the ones who suffer from
it.
How many log doing schools are there really?
I say - LOG in... bagrut exam OUT.
... and I haven't even started to talk about how our students feel about
this whole thing...
Kobi Lavy
Mekif Daled
Ashdod
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I wrote that I jacked up the grades of those who had been working well!!
That's perfectly legitimate! How can you insinuate that that's deceitful and
is no different from saying we say we teach literature when in fact we
don't???
I really take offence at that!
The average mark on the test grade (without the tziyun shnati) in my school
- both of my class and a parallel class - was 82. I think you should be able
to infer from that that we taught some literature before we thought about
the yearly grade. WE ARE BOTH HONEST TEACHERS!!!!
I have had the feeling for a long time that the MOE wants to push us into
the log, but as long as I'm on the job, I refuse to be pushed into a
situation where I know I'll have to deal with parental and school management
pressure over log grades, allowing kids to hand assignments in late, redo
weak assignments etc.
Could some of the teachers who are doing the log option come forward and say
what the average log grade is in their class.
Then perhaps our discussion could be more factually based.
jesg wrote:
> Although I am not Carmen, I would like to say that last year our
> English speaking students also took the Winter exam to prepare them
> for the Summer one.
>
> During the summer our staff reviewed the booklets - referring to the
> rubric answers and still we disagreed with several of the accepted
> answers. Yes, we wanted to appeal but our students asked us not to
> since the Summer exam went a bit better and they feared they might
> somehow be penalized.
>
> I don't know if Carmen used the word "regurgitate" in her comment. I
> know I said it and if you reread that section you will see that I said
> the students are being taught to " regurgitate the contents." I am
> terribly sorry I didn't tape the conversation where that was said by a
> "power."
>
> By the way how is "jacking up" the yearly grade different from NOT
> teaching literature at all but saying we did.... one of the claims why
> we need the lit. exam.
>
> My staff and I are extremely insulted by that claim. We loved teaching
> lit once upon a time. Our students enjoyed the experience and still
> remember a lot...I check up on them every t ime we meet!!! I repeat,
> our Hebrew literature staff was appaulled when they saw the exam and
> the rubrics for answers as were several MAs in English Lit that read
> them!
>
>
> Maxine wrote:
>>
>> Hi Carmen,
>> First of all, I'm not sure I understand the problem that you mention
>> in the last part of your email. The decision to have your pupils
>> take the Bagrut in the winter or summer is totally yours to make. If
>> you felt your pupils were not adequately prepared you could have
>> waited until this May to have them sit for the exam, no?
>>
>> As for your question as to how the exams are actually marked: well, all
>> the answer keys from previous exams can be found on the TLC site and this
>> winter's answer key will surely be there very soon for you to see. As
a
>> senior marker of the F Literature exam I can say, however, that a
>> major problem is the bridging question. Pupils often regurgitate the
>> contents of the story or poem instead of making a connection between
>> the new information and the literary piece. Obviously I don't know
>> if this was the case at your school.
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