How do you get the new version off the Sendero Web site? I don't remember if I have a upgrade left and I don't remember what my user ID and password is, either. Claude Everett American by chance, Californian by choice. Everyone has a disability, some are more aware of it than others. "If we have learned one thing from the civil rights movement in the united states, it is that when you let others speak for you, you lose." Ed Roberts