A little more information is required to determine what the issue may be. If you could provide the Address, POI Name or lat/lon of your start and ending points, it would help determine the issue. The warnigg message about it being a long route has been in place for a while and occurs when one tries to create a vehicle route greater than 100 miles. Thanks, Kevin -----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of djden (Dennis Freedman) Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 4:15 PM To: doug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Unable to create long route - help please Hello Using the new Sendero GPS Ver 5, trying to create a vehicle route between where I live in Lancashire, NW England, to Kensington in London, about 176 miles, I get the message "this is a very long route--are you sure you wish to continue?" After replying Yes, almost immediately I receive the message "unable to create route". In ver 4 I had no trouble creating much longer distances. Any help welcomed, and apologies if this is covered in the manual--can someone point me to more information? (smile).