I was talking to a friend of mine who never used Miniguide, but she said that it sounded similar to mowat sensor. I never saw that one either, but she said that the device was more useful indoor and not much so outdoor. Did anyone use mowat sensor? Any major differences? Koji -----Original Message----- From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brett Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 2:20 AM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide Hi, It would work in the snow, but you probably wouldn't want to use it when it is snowing. I don't use mine when it's raining. It's a good idea to try to keep moisture out of the unit. Cheers, Brett. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Koji Matsuda (Yahoo)" <kojim33jp@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:05 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide > Oh wow, the battery lasts that long? That is wonderful. I wish I could > try > it out. It sounds so neat. I like to walk fast and sometimes my cane > can't > keep up with me. A device like Miniguide might be helpful to me. Does it > work in the snow? > > > Koji > -----Original Message----- > From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brett > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:48 PM > To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide > > Hi, > > I still would recommend the miniguide as I agree that a broken or bent > cane > is a problem with the Ultracane. The other advantage of the miniguide is > that you can use it with out a cane, such as walking around in the office > where you don't necessarily need your cane but want to avoid desks or > chairs > > or tell if doors are open or closed. The other advantage of the miniguide > is > > that you can scan in totally different directions to where your cane is > pointing. For Example, you can scan at 90 degrees to your direction of > travel if you are trying to locate or count doorways or light poles etc. > > I have had the miniguide for 9 months and haven't yet had a problem with > the > > vibration unit and since the manual says that these units are commercially > available, I would assume they wouldn't be too expensive as they aren't > custom made. The Miniguide is also really well made, the Ultra cane says > it's batteries last one to two weeks, but my 9 months old miniguide is > still > > on the same battery. > > Cheers, > Brett. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jason smith" <thisisjj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:55 PM > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide > > >> Hi Karen, >> I am glad this discussion of the miniguide has come up, as I am currently >> looking into possibly getting one. I have been debating between looking >> at > >> getting the miniguide, or the ultracane. The ultracane uses the same >> principles as the miniguide, but is twice the price I believe. One >> advantage of the ultracane, is that you can keep your other hand free, as >> the vibrating information, is built into the handle of a standard cane. >> As > >> someone who has broken two canes in one day before, through people >> tripping over it in a crowd, I am cautious about spending so much money, >> incase the same happens again. The miniguide therefore, may be a better >> alternative. There are demonstration podcasts on both the miniguide and >> ultracane on >> www.blindcooltech.com if anyone is interested. A question though please >> Karen. In the podcast on the miniguide, it is mentioned that the >> vibration > >> unit will need to be replaced from time-to-time. In your experience, how >> often is this and is it very costly? >> thanks a lot and best wishes Jason >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Karen Bailey" <karenb74@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:09 AM >> Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: Re: Mini Guide >> >> >>> Hi, the Miniguide is very useful, and, I have used it while standing in >>> line to tell when people move up and how far. Karen >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Date sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:03:22 -0700 >>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Mini Guide >>> >>>>Is it actually useful? Do you think it would be valuable in real >>> world >>>>settings? I'd thinking finding lines and managing distance / >>> standing in >>>>line would be easier with a device like that. >>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Wendy Slominsky" <wendyslominsky@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:38 PM >>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Mini Guide >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>again, go to www.senderogroup.com >>> >>>>> There is a link for the mini guide there. It is small, about >>> the size of a >>>>> Milky way bar, but it doesn't melt in your hand. It has a strap >>> so I have >>>>> it hooked around the handle of my PK and I just grab it and turn >>> it on >>>>> when I want to use it. I can not describe the technology >>> accurately, but >>>>> it is a laser beam, I believe, that vibrates when it detects an >>> object. As >>>>> you get closer the vibration is stronger and more constant. You >>> can set it >>>>> for three different settings be pending on how close up you want >>> it to try >>>>> and detect objects. You hold it with the two round detectors >>> one on top of >>>>> the other so it covers a range of something that is an up and >>> down >>>>> obstacle such as a pole. With a thumb you can turn it on and >>> off and allow >>>>> it to hang unused again until you might want it for something >>> else. I have >>>>> played with it in stores and if you move a bit slowly and put it >>> on the >>>>> most sensitive setting you can actually walk around a store >>> without >>>>> walking into anything. you just try to avoid the areas where >>> there is a >>>>> strong vibration. Conversely, if you are looking to find >>> something you >>>>> walk closer and closer to the vibration. When you have a strong >>> signal you >>>>> know you are close and you can move the unit from side to side >>> just a inch >>>>> or so and that will target your approach very precisely. >>>>> It takes about an hour or so to play with and get a feel for but >>> after >>>>> that it is very easy to use and takes no talent. >>> >>> >>>>>>Hi, what is a mini guide? I never heard of it. Where do you get >>> one of >>>>>>these. Andy >>> >>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Karen >>> Bailey >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:23 PM >>>>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: better mobility technology was Re: e: >>> Lack >>>>>>of Traffic Lights >>> >>> >>>>>>Hi, if anyone finds out about new mobility tech, I am always >>>>>>interested. Contact me if you know anything about upcoming >>>>>>technology. Karen and Harpo >>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:59:48 -0700 >>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] better mobility technology was Re: e: >>>>>>Lack of Traffic Lights >>> >>>>>>>That brings up a question. Is there a good resource for finding >>>>>>out the >>>>>>>latest available in mobility technology? I'm wondering what's >>>>>>out there or >>>>>>>in the works. It just seems that there has to be a better way of >>>>>>navigating >>>>>>>other than swinging a pole around or putting your trust in lower >>>>>>mammals. >>>>>>>(especially for more distant range finding etc) Any pointers >>>>>>would be >>>>>>>appreciated. Anyone with experience using something other than a >>>>>>cane or >>>>>>>dog who wishes to contact me off list as I'm sure this is off >>>>>>topic would >>>>>>>also be appreciated. >>> >>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>From: "Karen Bailey" <karenb74@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:52 PM >>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: Lack of Traffic Lights >>> >>> >>>>>>>> Hi this is Karen and Harpo my guidedog. I found a solution for >>>>>>not >>>>>>>> finding traffic light poles. I use the Miniguide to find >>>>>>traffic light >>>>>>>> poles when there is no other way or point of interest. I have >>>>>>used the >>>>>>>> Mowat sensor in the past for the same thing. It finds things >>>>>>not >>>>>>>> otherwise obvious to a blind person and sometimes scan in front >>>>>>of me for >>>>>>>> construction can feel how high fences are, and where, and other >>>>>>such not >>>>>>>> so obvious items like benches in parks hard to find without >>>>>>sighted >>>>>>>> assist. This may not help you, but I thought I'd mention it. >>>>>>Karen and >>>>>>>> Harpo >>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>From: "Mr. Leslie Paul Peterson" <Les537@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:39:06 -0500 (CDT) >>>>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Lack of Traffic Lights >>> >>>>>>>>>My teacher taught me GPS lessons today. My first time to learn >>>>>>>> how to destination and route. >>>>>>>>>I am disappointed because GPS does not have the traffic lights >>>>>>>> location. >>> >>>>>>>>>Route guide me and tell me turn 3 or 9 oclock but I can not go >>>>>>>> across the busy street >>>>>>>>>without the traffic light. I MUST have the lights where I can >>>>>>>> walk across the streets. >>> >>>>>>>>>How could I command it? Could there make a new version? >>> >>>>>>>>>Leslie-- >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------- > GANBARE! NIPPON! Chance to win 50,000 Yahoo! Points! > http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ganbare-nippon/ > > -------------------------------------- GANBARE! NIPPON! Chance to win 50,000 Yahoo! Points! http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ganbare-nippon/