Nope, at least on the UltraCane the beams are not aimed at the ground. I don't think there is enough density in a snowflake to affect it. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide Wouldn't the snow crystals defuse the beam? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett" <brettsta21@xxxxxxxxx> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:19 PM Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide > Hi, > > It would work in the snow, but you probably wouldn't want to use it when > it is snowing. I don't use mine when it's raining. It's a good idea to try > to keep moisture out of the unit. > > Cheers, > Brett. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Koji Matsuda (Yahoo)" <kojim33jp@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:05 PM > Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide > > >> Oh wow, the battery lasts that long? That is wonderful. I wish I could >> try >> it out. It sounds so neat. I like to walk fast and sometimes my cane >> can't >> keep up with me. A device like Miniguide might be helpful to me. Does >> it >> work in the snow? >> >> >> Koji >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brett >> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:48 PM >> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide >> >> Hi, >> >> I still would recommend the miniguide as I agree that a broken or bent >> cane >> is a problem with the Ultracane. The other advantage of the miniguide is >> that you can use it with out a cane, such as walking around in the office >> where you don't necessarily need your cane but want to avoid desks or >> chairs >> >> or tell if doors are open or closed. The other advantage of the miniguide >> is >> >> that you can scan in totally different directions to where your cane is >> pointing. For Example, you can scan at 90 degrees to your direction of >> travel if you are trying to locate or count doorways or light poles etc. >> >> I have had the miniguide for 9 months and haven't yet had a problem with >> the >> >> vibration unit and since the manual says that these units are >> commercially >> available, I would assume they wouldn't be too expensive as they aren't >> custom made. The Miniguide is also really well made, the Ultra cane says >> it's batteries last one to two weeks, but my 9 months old miniguide is >> still >> >> on the same battery. >> >> Cheers, >> Brett. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "jason smith" <thisisjj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:55 PM >> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide >> >> >>> Hi Karen, >>> I am glad this discussion of the miniguide has come up, as I am >>> currently >>> looking into possibly getting one. I have been debating between looking >>> at >> >>> getting the miniguide, or the ultracane. The ultracane uses the same >>> principles as the miniguide, but is twice the price I believe. One >>> advantage of the ultracane, is that you can keep your other hand free, >>> as >>> the vibrating information, is built into the handle of a standard cane. >>> As >> >>> someone who has broken two canes in one day before, through people >>> tripping over it in a crowd, I am cautious about spending so much money, >>> incase the same happens again. The miniguide therefore, may be a better >>> alternative. There are demonstration podcasts on both the miniguide and >>> ultracane on >>> www.blindcooltech.com if anyone is interested. A question though please >>> Karen. In the podcast on the miniguide, it is mentioned that the >>> vibration >> >>> unit will need to be replaced from time-to-time. In your experience, how >>> often is this and is it very costly? >>> thanks a lot and best wishes Jason >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Karen Bailey" <karenb74@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:09 AM >>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: Re: Mini Guide >>> >>> >>>> Hi, the Miniguide is very useful, and, I have used it while standing in >>>> line to tell when people move up and how far. Karen >>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>Date sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:03:22 -0700 >>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Mini Guide >>>> >>>>>Is it actually useful? Do you think it would be valuable in real >>>> world >>>>>settings? I'd thinking finding lines and managing distance / >>>> standing in >>>>>line would be easier with a device like that. >>>> >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Wendy Slominsky" <wendyslominsky@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:38 PM >>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Mini Guide >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>again, go to www.senderogroup.com >>>> >>>>>> There is a link for the mini guide there. It is small, about >>>> the size of a >>>>>> Milky way bar, but it doesn't melt in your hand. It has a strap >>>> so I have >>>>>> it hooked around the handle of my PK and I just grab it and turn >>>> it on >>>>>> when I want to use it. I can not describe the technology >>>> accurately, but >>>>>> it is a laser beam, I believe, that vibrates when it detects an >>>> object. As >>>>>> you get closer the vibration is stronger and more constant. You >>>> can set it >>>>>> for three different settings be pending on how close up you want >>>> it to try >>>>>> and detect objects. You hold it with the two round detectors >>>> one on top of >>>>>> the other so it covers a range of something that is an up and >>>> down >>>>>> obstacle such as a pole. With a thumb you can turn it on and >>>> off and allow >>>>>> it to hang unused again until you might want it for something >>>> else. I have >>>>>> played with it in stores and if you move a bit slowly and put it >>>> on the >>>>>> most sensitive setting you can actually walk around a store >>>> without >>>>>> walking into anything. you just try to avoid the areas where >>>> there is a >>>>>> strong vibration. Conversely, if you are looking to find >>>> something you >>>>>> walk closer and closer to the vibration. When you have a strong >>>> signal you >>>>>> know you are close and you can move the unit from side to side >>>> just a inch >>>>>> or so and that will target your approach very precisely. >>>>>> It takes about an hour or so to play with and get a feel for but >>>> after >>>>>> that it is very easy to use and takes no talent. >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>Hi, what is a mini guide? I never heard of it. Where do you get >>>> one of >>>>>>>these. Andy >>>> >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Karen >>>> Bailey >>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:23 PM >>>>>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: better mobility technology was Re: e: >>>> Lack >>>>>>>of Traffic Lights >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>Hi, if anyone finds out about new mobility tech, I am always >>>>>>>interested. Contact me if you know anything about upcoming >>>>>>>technology. Karen and Harpo >>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:59:48 -0700 >>>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] better mobility technology was Re: e: >>>>>>>Lack of Traffic Lights >>>> >>>>>>>>That brings up a question. Is there a good resource for finding >>>>>>>out the >>>>>>>>latest available in mobility technology? I'm wondering what's >>>>>>>out there or >>>>>>>>in the works. It just seems that there has to be a better way of >>>>>>>navigating >>>>>>>>other than swinging a pole around or putting your trust in lower >>>>>>>mammals. >>>>>>>>(especially for more distant range finding etc) Any pointers >>>>>>>would be >>>>>>>>appreciated. Anyone with experience using something other than a >>>>>>>cane or >>>>>>>>dog who wishes to contact me off list as I'm sure this is off >>>>>>>topic would >>>>>>>>also be appreciated. >>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks >>>>>>>>Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>From: "Karen Bailey" <karenb74@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:52 PM >>>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: Lack of Traffic Lights >>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi this is Karen and Harpo my guidedog. I found a solution for >>>>>>>not >>>>>>>>> finding traffic light poles. I use the Miniguide to find >>>>>>>traffic light >>>>>>>>> poles when there is no other way or point of interest. I have >>>>>>>used the >>>>>>>>> Mowat sensor in the past for the same thing. It finds things >>>>>>>not >>>>>>>>> otherwise obvious to a blind person and sometimes scan in front >>>>>>>of me for >>>>>>>>> construction can feel how high fences are, and where, and other >>>>>>>such not >>>>>>>>> so obvious items like benches in parks hard to find without >>>>>>>sighted >>>>>>>>> assist. This may not help you, but I thought I'd mention it. >>>>>>>Karen and >>>>>>>>> Harpo >>>> >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>From: "Mr. Leslie Paul Peterson" <Les537@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:39:06 -0500 (CDT) >>>>>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Lack of Traffic Lights >>>> >>>>>>>>>>My teacher taught me GPS lessons today. My first time to learn >>>>>>>>> how to destination and route. >>>>>>>>>>I am disappointed because GPS does not have the traffic lights >>>>>>>>> location. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>Route guide me and tell me turn 3 or 9 oclock but I can not go >>>>>>>>> across the busy street >>>>>>>>>>without the traffic light. I MUST have the lights where I can >>>>>>>>> walk across the streets. >>>> >>>>>>>>>>How could I command it? Could there make a new version? >>>> >>>>>>>>>>Leslie-- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------- >> GANBARE! NIPPON! Chance to win 50,000 Yahoo! Points! >> http://pr.mail.yahoo.co.jp/ganbare-nippon/ >> >> > >