[gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide

  • From: "Steve" <drum67-72@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:29:49 -0400

Nope, at least on the UltraCane the beams are not aimed at the ground.  I 
don't think there is enough density in a snowflake to affect it.

Steve
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:33 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide


Wouldn't the snow crystals defuse the beam?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brett" <brettsta21@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:19 PM
Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide


> Hi,
>
> It would work in the snow, but you probably wouldn't want to use it when
> it is snowing. I don't use mine when it's raining. It's a good idea to try
> to keep moisture out of the unit.
>
> Cheers,
> Brett.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Koji Matsuda (Yahoo)" <kojim33jp@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:05 PM
> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide
>
>
>> Oh wow, the battery lasts that long?  That is wonderful.  I wish I could
>> try
>> it out.  It sounds so neat.  I like to walk fast and sometimes my cane
>> can't
>> keep up with me.  A device like Miniguide might be helpful to me.  Does
>> it
>> work in the snow?
>>
>>
>> Koji
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brett
>> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 6:48 PM
>> To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I still would recommend the miniguide as I agree that a broken or bent
>> cane
>> is a problem with the Ultracane. The other advantage of the miniguide is
>> that you can use it with out a cane, such as walking around in the office
>> where you don't necessarily need your cane but want to avoid desks or
>> chairs
>>
>> or tell if doors are open or closed. The other advantage of the miniguide
>> is
>>
>> that you can scan in totally different directions to where your cane is
>> pointing. For Example, you can scan at 90 degrees to your direction of
>> travel if you are trying to locate or count doorways or light poles etc.
>>
>> I have had the miniguide for 9 months and haven't yet had a problem with
>> the
>>
>> vibration unit and since the manual says that these units are
>> commercially
>> available, I would assume they wouldn't be too expensive as they aren't
>> custom made. The Miniguide is also really well made, the Ultra cane says
>> it's batteries last one to two weeks, but my 9 months old miniguide is
>> still
>>
>> on the same battery.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Brett.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "jason smith" <thisisjj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 1:55 PM
>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: e: Re: Mini Guide
>>
>>
>>> Hi Karen,
>>> I am glad this discussion of the miniguide has come up, as I am
>>> currently
>>> looking into possibly getting one. I have been debating between looking
>>> at
>>
>>> getting the miniguide, or the ultracane. The ultracane uses the same
>>> principles as the miniguide, but is twice the price I believe. One
>>> advantage of the ultracane, is that you can keep your other hand free,
>>> as
>>> the vibrating information, is built into the handle of a standard cane.
>>> As
>>
>>> someone who has broken two canes in one day before, through people
>>> tripping over it in a crowd, I am cautious about spending so much money,
>>> incase the same happens again. The miniguide therefore, may be a better
>>> alternative. There are demonstration podcasts on both the miniguide and
>>> ultracane on
>>> www.blindcooltech.com if anyone is interested. A question though please
>>> Karen. In the podcast on the miniguide, it is mentioned that the
>>> vibration
>>
>>> unit will need to be replaced from time-to-time. In your experience, how
>>> often is this and is it very costly?
>>> thanks a lot and best wishes Jason
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Karen Bailey" <karenb74@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:09 AM
>>> Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: Re: Mini Guide
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi, the Miniguide is very useful, and, I have used it while standing in
>>>> line to tell when people move up and how far.  Karen
>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Date sent: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:03:22 -0700
>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: Mini Guide
>>>>
>>>>>Is it actually useful?  Do you think it would be valuable in real
>>>> world
>>>>>settings?  I'd thinking finding lines and managing distance /
>>>> standing in
>>>>>line would be easier with a device like that.
>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Wendy Slominsky" <wendyslominsky@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 5:38 PM
>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Mini Guide
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>again, go to www.senderogroup.com
>>>>
>>>>>> There is a link for the mini guide there.  It is small, about
>>>> the size of a
>>>>>> Milky way bar, but it doesn't melt in your hand.  It has a strap
>>>> so I have
>>>>>> it hooked around the handle of my PK and I just grab it and turn
>>>> it on
>>>>>> when I want to use it.  I can not describe the technology
>>>> accurately, but
>>>>>> it is a laser beam, I believe, that vibrates when it detects an
>>>> object.  As
>>>>>> you get closer the vibration is stronger and more constant.  You
>>>> can set it
>>>>>> for three different settings be pending on how close up you want
>>>> it to try
>>>>>> and detect objects.  You hold it with the two round detectors
>>>> one on top of
>>>>>> the other so it covers a range of something that is an up and
>>>> down
>>>>>> obstacle such as a pole.  With a thumb you can turn it on and
>>>> off and allow
>>>>>> it to hang unused again until you might want it for something
>>>> else.  I have
>>>>>> played with it in stores and if you move a bit slowly and put it
>>>> on the
>>>>>> most sensitive setting you can actually walk around a store
>>>> without
>>>>>> walking into anything.  you just try to avoid the areas where
>>>> there is a
>>>>>> strong vibration.  Conversely, if you are looking to find
>>>> something you
>>>>>> walk closer and closer to the vibration.  When you have a strong
>>>> signal you
>>>>>> know you are close and you can move the unit from side to side
>>>> just a inch
>>>>>> or so and that will target your approach very precisely.
>>>>>> It takes about an hour or so to play with and get a feel for but
>>>> after
>>>>>> that it is very easy to use and takes no talent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, what is a mini guide?  I never heard of it.  Where do you get
>>>> one of
>>>>>>>these.  Andy
>>>>
>>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>[mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Karen
>>>> Bailey
>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 8:23 PM
>>>>>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: better mobility technology was Re: e:
>>>> Lack
>>>>>>>of Traffic Lights
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi, if anyone finds out about new mobility tech, I am always
>>>>>>>interested.  Contact me if you know anything about upcoming
>>>>>>>technology.  Karen and Harpo
>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "Scott Granados" <gsgranados@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:59:48 -0700
>>>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] better mobility technology was Re: e:
>>>>>>>Lack of Traffic Lights
>>>>
>>>>>>>>That brings up a question.  Is there a good resource for finding
>>>>>>>out the
>>>>>>>>latest available in mobility technology?  I'm wondering what's
>>>>>>>out there or
>>>>>>>>in the works.  It just seems that there has to be a better way of
>>>>>>>navigating
>>>>>>>>other than swinging a pole around or putting your trust in lower
>>>>>>>mammals.
>>>>>>>>(especially for more distant range finding etc)  Any pointers
>>>>>>>would be
>>>>>>>>appreciated.  Anyone with experience using something other than a
>>>>>>>cane or
>>>>>>>>dog who wishes to contact me off list as I'm sure this is off
>>>>>>>topic would
>>>>>>>>also be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>>>>Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>From: "Karen Bailey" <karenb74@xxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>To: <gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:52 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] e: Lack of Traffic Lights
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi this is Karen and Harpo my guidedog.  I found a solution for
>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>> finding traffic light poles.  I use the Miniguide to find
>>>>>>>traffic light
>>>>>>>>> poles when there is no other way or point of interest.  I have
>>>>>>>used the
>>>>>>>>> Mowat sensor in the past for the same thing.  It finds things
>>>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>> otherwise obvious to a blind person and sometimes scan in front
>>>>>>>of me for
>>>>>>>>> construction can feel how high fences are, and where, and other
>>>>>>>such not
>>>>>>>>> so obvious items like benches in parks hard to find without
>>>>>>>sighted
>>>>>>>>> assist.  This may not help you, but I thought I'd mention it.
>>>>>>>Karen and
>>>>>>>>> Harpo
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>From: "Mr.  Leslie Paul Peterson" <Les537@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>>Date sent: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 17:39:06 -0500 (CDT)
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [gps-talkusers] Lack of Traffic Lights
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My teacher taught me GPS lessons today.  My first time to learn
>>>>>>>>> how to destination and route.
>>>>>>>>>>I am disappointed because GPS does not have the traffic lights
>>>>>>>>> location.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Route guide me and tell me turn 3 or 9 oclock but I can not go
>>>>>>>>> across the busy street
>>>>>>>>>>without the traffic light.  I MUST have the lights where I can
>>>>>>>>> walk across the streets.
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>How could I command it?  Could there make a new version?
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Leslie--
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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