Thanks for the response. I currently use my braillenote sendero option and I didn't realize that this feature was on the older maps. I remember reading through a vender's catalogue that sold garmin handheld gps nav aids and one of the devices listed the ability to show major bodies of water and they were charging $500 for this water proof device with this feature and oh how I dreamed of the day that the blind could have this feature too. Hopefully one day it can be brought back as I enjoy knowing the names of lakes and rivers and since these geographic features are so visually obvious to a sighted person that it would help for a blind person in identifying there existence and besides, as a blind user, I'd like some warning before tumbling into a body of water. As a side note, I am glad that we have the option of a iPhone gps that is reliable and has most of what I need. I don't always want to carry around my brailleNote so having a gps option on my iPhone would be nice. You don't always need an elephant to carry around a 2 pound backpack! Marco From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Charles LaPierre Sent: July-12-13 10:25 AM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] Re: marking rivers and oceans and other bodies of water Great feature request Marco, We actually had this ability a number of years ago, then the map provider changed how they encoded this data and we haven't been back around to make it work again in all our Sendero SDK products. I looked into adding this in the Seeing Eye App, but found issues where it would report unexpected river and lake crossings in multiple places along a bridge instead of just at the end points, and quite honestly didn't have time to try and figure it out. That is one of those features if it's simple add it, if it takes more than a half hour to figure out or if anything unexpected happens when you test it, then it will have to be made a lower priority and once all the higher priority items are fixed then we can revisit it when we have more time. But then not everyone will want to always hear this information, so now you have to make it an on/off settings to include lakes and rivers etc. it just is never simple as you would think. Thanks. Charles LaPierre, CTO Sendero Group Developers of accessible GPS and distributors of technology for the blind Office Phone: 888-757-6810 Email: Charles@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sendero web: http://www.senderogroup.com <http://www.senderogroup.com/> General GPS Web: http://www.AccessibleGPS.com <http://www.accessiblegps.com/> From: gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:gps-talkusers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marco Migotti Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 9:09 AM To: gps-talkusers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [gps-talkusers] marking rivers and oceans and other bodies of water A question I have involving my tom tom maps is why aren't rivers and lakes and oceans marked on their road map? What I am getting at is when you are driving along or walking along a road and a river comes up with a bridge crossing it. Why don't the current maps have the river marked so that when I am on that road, the name of the river would be listed as we cross it. Too me, a river is just another line on the map and a line can be given a name and be treated like a path way or road and common sense would tell me that you can't walk on the river. An example of what I am talking about is right here in calgary alberta canada where elbow drive sw crosses the elbow river south of cifton blvd but my sendero product doesn't label this fact. Because of my knowledge of the area, I know that there is a river that is being crossed at this point but the map doesn't speak this. Or how about those of you who live near the ocean and there is a road that follows the ocean but the maps don't list the name of the ocean that is beside the road and again the people who live in the area would know this from experience but to somebody new they wouldn't know this fact about that particular road. Have other people experienced this when navigating in their parts of the world? Is there a way of getting these bodies of water labeled? Thanks for any help! Marco hello@xxxxxxxxxxx