[jawsscripts] Re: Wiki-izing JAWSScripts
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 00:48:42 +1100
well, from what I'm hearing,
it sounds like a pretty cool idea to me too everett. only, ... welll, ...,
I've got another embarrassing/redFaced post coming up today so I may's well
go the whole hog as a total idiot,
and publicly ask,
what, is, exactly, a Wiki!" Why, is it called a wiki, and, how is it easier
to utilize than web Forum thinggys,? or google-searchable archives?
For I reckon that , like Doug, I find the mailing list for day to day just
piling through stuff, a very handy resource. but if it can help people to
locate information on topics better, then that certainly sounds kinda
useful. I'm wondering how it would fair differently, though, than, say,
using google to search archives of posts on topics of interest?
It must be different I realize that, else the methodology wouldn't have been
invented. But I for one am at present a little fogged and still quite green
as to it's benefits and merrits. is there a magic article you could perhaps
point us to, that might explain these?
if you haven't already and I've forgotten?
which is quite possible.
<smile.>
is it kinda like what I've heard wikipedia speak of itself as, where people
can submit small additional edits to a single article covering the thread
topic or whatever?
such that all the input to a thread,ends up in one article, rather than lots
of little posts with the other person's replies at their bottoms, and
things?
and someone presumably checks it for accuracy or something? which sounds
rather time consuming? ... hmmm.
as you see, I don't get out much, even virtually! <grin.>
My other concern with it though,
would be to exhort you to
just take some care not to, "Knock yourself out," as the americans used to
say once upon a time when the earth was green, - well greener, <grin,>
in that I know these projects, when taken on, can reeeeeally just start to
take over one's life to try and get right, and running optimally. So I do
hope you have a well trained builtin "off"/balance button in your head,
that permits you to get some of your other important work and life bits
done.
and, I'd just exhort you not to start letting the internal perceptions of
expectations you, "feel," might begin to ramp up on you from your community,
or which in regretable reality people might actually
begin to consciously or unconsciously start putting on you,
turn the whole deal it into a horrid chore that saps all your energy etc.
I'ts all too easy in this life I reckon, for us on the sidelines to go, "rah
rah! Go hard," and other such expressions of encouragement towards the other
blokes continued pain! when we're not the ones feelin it. if you get my
drift. oh boy, talk about all the hippy expressions comin out today! ahem,
I'm showing my age again. <groan.>
best stop.
Geoff c.
<chinyoka.consultant@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 8:45 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: Wiki-izing JAWSScripts
> That's great! In fact, the idea seems to be progressive:
>
> * Consider that around the web, you come across compiled frequently
> asked questions on various programming languages such as C/C++, XML,
> Visual Basic, Python etc. All these serve to minimnize repetitions and
> direct the reader to a specific topic without flooding listers'
> inboxes with questions that were once-upon-a-time discussed.
>
> My only suggestion is that
> whoever is in charge of this mailing list should either help newbies
> get to this wiki or FAQ collection. For instance, the Python mailing
> list sends any new subscriber a link not only to its frequently asked
> questions, but even to an article written by Raymond on beginning to
> program. So in the same spirit, any new subscriber to the JAWScripts
> mailing list may get a welcome letter which serves as an introductory
> message with the link to the Wiki.
>
> Another alternative is that at the end of the message, any interested
> reader may be directed to the wiki page. This is what the guys on the
> NVDA mailing list do: they provide extra details at the end of each
> post so that anyone interested in further info may click certain links
> on the web.
>
> Personally, I do not think it is a waste of time. Yes a lot of
> patience to sift through various threads to get relevant info is
> required, but it is worth the effort once every subject matter is
> sorted out. Without being flattery, I think this is one of the lists
> where posters do not often go off-topic. Most threads may still be in
> tune. Perhaps the problem could be of following thread questions to
> get satisfactory answers.
>
> As for the time, for a beginning, October is certainly realistic. Of
> course, with the help and contribution of everyone on this list,
> listers can trace threads to even a year from now.
>
> This is going to profit not only newbies to Jaws scripting, but
> seasoned developers as well: there are challenges we are having as
> Jaws scripters as regards literature. Besides the ample stuff from
> Freedom Scientific and a few tutorials here and there on Jaws
> scripting, Jaws scripting has few books. this will play an important
> role in filling in the gap of information as far as scripting for Jaws
> is concerned. In fact, this mailing list gonna be one of the relevant
> on talking of latest developments without repetitions.
>
> Cheers,
>
> On 12/2/08, E.J. Zufelt <everett@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Good evening,
> >
> > As if I don't have enough to do...
> >
> > I have decided to start "wiki-izing" the JAWSScripts mailing list
archive.
> > My hope is that once I start a wiki and do some initial work others
might
> > genourously contribute some of their time to assist in the task of
taking
> > knowledge built up in the mailing list archive and moving it to the
wiki.
> >
> > I think the best way to do this is to create categories for frequently
> > discussed subjects and then add to the wiki articles about the subjects.
> >
> > My methodology will be to take new posts and to follow the thread to
find
> > out if individual questions end up with useful answers. I will be
starting
> > with October 2008.
> >
> > If anyone is interested in assisting with this project or has any ideas
to
> > help, or thinks it's a stupid idea that's a waste of my time, please let
me
> > know.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Everett
> >
> >
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