[jawsscripts] Re: an installer for jaws scripts
- From: "Sarah" <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:03:23 -0700
Tha'ts a nulsoft scriptable nstaller. and that language is heck to learn! but
then again I'm not a programmer.
SA&G
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Greer" <jpgreer17@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 11:58 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: an installer for jaws scripts
I do know of a packager that the NVDA team uses that creates an exe file
from something called an NSI. Not very familiar with what they are doing
but I will look into it. From my understanding though the packager is open
source.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 1:43 PM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: an installer for jaws scripts
> I'm open to any suggestions on script installers. Criteria I use to
> choose one are, in no particular order I'm afraid:
>
> 1. Ease of use and setup.
>
> 2. Ability to work without modifying the Windows registry. It is my
> opinion that a set of JAWS scripts, being basically a subpart of JAWS,
> should not have entries of their own in the registry because removing
> JAWS would leave such entries behind while effectively uninstalling
> the scripts anyway.
>
> 3. Ability to compile JAWS scripts on installation.
>
> 4. Size of resulting installer file.
>
> 5. Ability for a person to extract the scripts to a place other than
> a JAWS folder, preferably with a third-party utility. I'm not finding
> this ability in the installers I've used, but this answers the people
> who are afraid of running third-party .exe files and would let me stop
> distributing both a zip and an installer for every version.
>
> 6. Ability to move, copy, rename, and modify files that did not come
> in the file set. This is for SkypeWatch and is thus for future work;
> I don't think we're doing this now.
>
> 7. Ability to include subdirectories in the file set. This is new.
>
> I may be forgetting some things here, but that's a good start anyway.
> If there is a clear winner sometime, chances are it will also become
> the way I handle BX.
>
> Current situation as best I know it: Sarah's current installer
> manages points 1 through 4, the one she's currently examining manages
> 1 through 3 and 7, the Nullsoft Installer currently used by BX manages
> points 2 through 4, 6, and possibly 7; and nothing I've used manages
> point 5 while managing many other ones.
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 07:26:40PM +0100, Chris Hallsworth wrote:
> Hey Doug, how about looking into the possibility of using Windows
> Installer
> (.msi) files for Skype script installations/updates? Just a thought.
> Chris Hallsworth
> BrailleNote mPower user
> Website: www.chrishallsworth.co.nr
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Doug Lee" <doug.lee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 7:12 PM
> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: an installer for jaws scripts
>
>
> I first raised the space issue actually. Sarah is asking this
> question because she makes the Skype installers, I added a
> subdirectory to the file set, we found out that her installer won't
> handle that very well, and she started trying new ones. My problem is
> that I have a fairly small web site, meaning not much space for files,
> and the Skype script versions tend to stay there for a while. I may
> have to deal with the deletion of Skype versions soon, but I admit I
> was trying to put that off. I have reasons for not wanting to move
> the web site though.
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 02:06:02PM -0400, Jamal Mazrui wrote:
> JSX can create subdirectories, easily if the subdirectory is under the
> user script directory, or with coding in the Inno Setup Pascal language
> otherwise. A JSX-based installer is, indeed, relatively large, though
> that is practically hardly ever an issue these days. If the user wants
> to save the space after installation, simply delete the setup file.
>
> Regards,
> Jamal
> On Wed,
> 26 Sep 2007, Sarah wrote:
>
>> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:26:17 -0700
>> From: Sarah <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Reply-To: jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: jaws scripting list <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: an installer for jaws scripts
>>
>> Well that installer works but I need something that will produce a
>> smaller
>> exe file and that will do what I need it to do. This
>> set of scripts has sub folders that need to be instaled and going from
>> 153kb to almost 1 mb is a bit much and that was with out
>> the sub dir. Any other suggestions?
>> SA&G
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "inthaneelf" <inthaneelf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 12:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: an installer for jaws scripts
>>
>>
>> hi Sarah,
>>
>> there is an installer available on my grab bag web site (see URL under my
>> name) that was made by a very good programmer on the blind programming
>> list
>>
>> the header you want is a H2 and reads:
>> Made handy Useful Programs, Microsoft Plugins and SDK's
>>
>> the link reads:
>> Download Jaws Script Exchange
>>
>> HTH,
>> inthane
>> . For Blind Programming assistance, Information, Useful Programs, and
>> Links
>> to Jamal Mazrui's Text tutorial packages and Applications, visit me at:
>> http://grabbag.alacorncomputer.com
>> . to be able to view a simple programming project in several programming
>> languages, visit the Fruit basket demo site at:
>> http://fruitbasketdemo.alacorncomputer.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sarah" <marrie12@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "jaws scripting list" <Jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 9:13 PM
>> Subject: an installer for jaws scripts
>>
>>
>> > Hello. Is there anotehr jaws script installer that can make an
>> > installer
>> > for jaws scripts that I can use? Right now I'm using JSInstall but
>> > right
>> > now i need something else that will support subdirectories and put
>> > files
>> > in a subdir of "enu" If this is off topic for this list, someone write
>> > me
>> > off list and point me in the right direction. Thanks.
>> > Sarah Alawami
>> > MSN: chellist@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> > skype: marrie1
>> > Website;
>> > www.marrie.org
>> > To check out my podcast go to
>> > http://feeds.feedburner.com/funfilled
>> > For information on the list where you can discuss the podcast check out
>> > http://tffp.marrie.org/mailman/listinfo/tffpdiscussionlist_tffp.marrie.org
>> > This will shut down Windows, do you want to play another game ?
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>> > For JAWS documentation including the scripting manuals, visit
>> > http://www.freedomsci.com/fs_support/doc_screenreaders.asp.
>> > Other scripting resources:
>> > JAWS Scripting lectures:
>> > http://www.saomaicenter.info/OnlineCourse/JawsScript/LecturesVictor.zip
>> > Audio tutorial on Jaws scripting conducted by Jim Snowbarger and
>> > broadcasted on ACBRadio:
>> > http://www.saomaicenter.info/OnlineCourse/JawsScript/JScriptAudioJimSnowbarger.zip
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>> For JAWS documentation including the scripting manuals, visit
>> http://www.freedomsci.com/fs_support/doc_screenreaders.asp.
>> Other scripting resources:
>> JAWS Scripting lectures:
>> http://www.saomaicenter.info/OnlineCourse/JawsScript/LecturesVictor.zip
>> Audio tutorial on Jaws scripting conducted by Jim Snowbarger and
>> broadcasted on ACBRadio:
>> http://www.saomaicenter.info/OnlineCourse/JawsScript/JScriptAudioJimSnowbarger.zip
>> Web site address: http://www.BlindProgramming.com
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