[jawsscripts] Re: making menu bar accessible
- From: "Geoff Chapman" <gch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 12:27:29 +1000
hmmm,
well, did you use the custom highlights feature to do it?
ITunes does this as well. one secret I've found though, is that sometimes,
you may need to use the invisible rather than the mouse/jaws cursor, to
focus on the highlighted top menu bar item, before doing your custom
highlight assign deal. not always necessary, it wasn't in ITunes as things
turned out, but it is sometimes.
This is because sometimes the color will change depending on whether the
mousePointer is hovering over the item or not. and of course when not using
mouse cursor, and just using alt key to bring up menu bar, then this is of
course going to be the state of things, so it's important to grab the,
non-mouse-hover, color, and the best way to do that is by using the
invisible cursor.
now in my experience, sometimes routing jaws to pc in these kind of custom
highlight instances won't do it for you, for the pc may not currently be
able to actually know what has focus.
So after pressing alt key to bring up presumably the file Menu as
highlighted, then don't bother trying to route jaws to pc, just stumble
around with invisible cursor to be on the safe side instead, until you land
on that menu option. then
advise checking the color foreGrond /background
manually, using jawskey+topRow number 5, and then going ahead and assigning
it as described above,
You can assure that's the real color gone in, by going back into config
manager, and doing a alt+s, then o, to get back into the custom highlight
assign dialog box.
Also, does the black on navy grey foreGround/BackGround color it sounds like
you've assigned somehow, either manually in newTextEvent as Integers, or
using custom hilight assign feature,
does this actually get the menu bar speaking as you desire with alt as you
move left and right arrow?
sounds to me like maybe you've either grabbd the wrong color, such that it's
the primary color on screen in which many things are displayed, hense it
reading like a ScreenEchoAll, setting,
or, that you happen to have struck a program where the -
highlighted top menu bar item, is the same color as many other things
displayed on screen, to which they wish to draw the sightlings gaze.
does this help?---- Original Message -----
From: "Marlon Brandão de Sousa" <splyt.lists@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <jawsscripts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 5:21 AM
Subject: [jawsscripts] Re: making menu bar accessible
> Hello,
> I tried to assign the black on navy gray to foreground and background
> colors, but now jaws reads a lot of things much like if the all mode
> (ins + s) was active ..
> Sean, your message is with several strange characters which makes its
> understanding hard ..
> The app is minitab.
> If you guys could explain me how these things related to color
> assignments work it would be cool.
> Marlon
>
>
> 2008/5/29, Trouble <trouble1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> > Try activating the menu and move to a item in the menu. then rout
> > jaws to pc and make sure your on that item. Now hit insert + f2, and
> > go to custom highlight assign...
> > Let it pick the colors and see if that reads the menu items now.
> >
> > At 02:47 PM 5/29/2008, you wrote:
> >>Hello all,
> >>I am scripting an application and trying to make the menu bar
> >>accessible. Its current behavior is the following:
> >>If I press alt + f I hhave access to the items in the file menu. This
> >>same statement is true to all of the other menus in the menu bar.
> >>If, however, I press only the alt key to give me access to the menu
> >>bar nothing happens.
> >>If I use the activateMenuBar() function, I am placed in the menu bar,.
> >>I can right and left arrow through the menus, but jaws won't speak the
> >>name of the currently selected menu, although if I press the down
> >>arrow I am able to hear the items of tthat menu.
> >>So let's supose I have three menus in the application, file edit and
view.
> >>If I press the alt key nothing happens.
> >>If I press alt+f I am successfully able to access the file menu items,
> >>such as open, close and save.
> >>if I use the activateMenuBar scripting function, I am placed on the
> >>menu bar, but jaws doesn't speak the currently selected menu.
> >>If I, for example, after placed in the menu bar, press the right arrow
> >>once, jaws doesn't speak nothing, but if I press down arrow, I have
> >>access to the items of the edit menu, such as copy and find, so I know
> >>that the right and left arrows are in fact selecting menus in the menu
> >>bar, the only problem is the miss of jaws feedback.
> >>This said, it's a common problem that I found in more than one
> >>application, and I have no idea about how to fix this. VMware servver
> >>has this problem also, and this feature is missing in ty scripts,
> >>although I am scripting at the moment a different application
> >>Do you know how can I make jaws read the menu bar correctly?
> >>Thanks,
> >>Marlon
> >>
> >>
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