[opendtv] Re: ATSC-SD vs. NTSC

  • From: dan.grimes@xxxxxxxx
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 11:08:20 -0700

Some of the stations are sending bands on each side of the SD, while others
are using the whole area (this makes for a constant need to adjust aspect
ratio).  So clearly not all the bits are used for picture, although the
black bars cannot take too many bits.  Others have multiple feeds.  All
have some HD programming, so I don't think they are encoding an analog STL.
Any way to find out their bit rate without special equipment?

Dan Grimes




                                                                                
                                      
                      Doug McDonald                                             
                                      
                      <mcdonald@xxxxxxx        To:       opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  
                                      
                      c.edu>                   cc:                              
                                      
                      Sent by:                 Subject:  [opendtv] Re: ATSC-SD 
vs. NTSC                               
                      opendtv-bounce@fr                                         
                                      
                      eelists.org                                               
                                      
                                                                                
                                      
                                                                                
                                      
                      10/27/2005 10:44                                          
                                      
                      AM                                                        
                                      
                      Please respond to                                         
                                      
                      opendtv                                                   
                                      
                                                                                
                                      
                                                                                
                                      




dan.grimes@xxxxxxxx wrote:

>
> Now on the HD side, while similar problems are seen, at least the added
> detail help improve the picture over NTSC.  But I don't understand why
> digital SD does not look better.

Because the providers are:

1) using bad encoders

AND/OR

2) having their encoders set wrong

AND/OR

3) using less than say 6 Mb/sec

AND/OR

4) running a crappy analog feed into the encoders


You might not realize that some folks have digital plants,
then send an analog NTSC over their STLs, and then encode
a low-grade monitor NTSC output for their digital channel.

We have a local station that transmits two SD pictures
on their digital channel (CBS and UPN) and both look
just fine. Of course, they are having cable providers use
those feeds instead of their Ch. 3 analog, so they care.

Doug McDonald


----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways:

- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at
FreeLists.org

- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word
unsubscribe in the subject line.




-- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis --
-- Type: image/gif
-- File: graycol.gif


-- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis --
-- Type: image/gif
-- File: ecblank.gif


-- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis --
-- Type: image/gif
-- File: pic14955.gif


 
 
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways:

- Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at 
FreeLists.org 

- By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word 
unsubscribe in the subject line.

Other related posts: