[opendtv] Re: DTV DVB boxes in Australia
- From: Bob Miller <bob@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2006 16:05:43 -0500
Dale Kelly wrote:
>Bert wrote:
>
>
>>If you believe in a conspiracy of cable and DBS vendors (which I don't
>>but just humor me a second), I would suggest that they would work that
>>much harder to keep COFDM boxes out of the market than they have done
>>with ATSC.
>>
>>
>
>I suggest that they (not limited to your list of players) could not have
>successfully blocked the mass-market availability of COFDM STBs given that
>they are available in great quantities worldwide. Even in our politically
>free wheeling society there could be no justification or support for such an
>action.
>However, by concentrating on the achievable, they stopped adoption of COFDM
>in favor of ATSC and are therefore able to control that receiver market.
>
>
Control that receiver market thru the poor performance of the
technology. They need no other conspiracy.
Bob Miller
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Behalf Of Manfredi, Albert E
>Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 8:58 AM
>To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [opendtv] Re: DTV DVB boxes in Australia
>
>Ian Mackenzie wrote:
>
>
>
>>Well here in Australia there are a ton of different
>>set-top boxes all of which work and are cheap.
>>
>>
>
>Great for Australia. That experience would most likely not be repeated
>here, no matter what RF modulation standard is used.
>
>If high performance and low cost ATSC receivers are being kept from the
>market, by whatever forces and for whatever reasons, there's absolutely
>no reason to believe that a different modulation scheme would change
>matters.
>
>If you believe in a conspiracy of cable and DBS vendors (which I don't
>but just humor me a a second), I would suggest that they would work that
>much harder to keep COFDM boxes out of the market than they have done
>with ATSC.
>
>FWIW, I'm fully enjoying my DTT at this time. Looking forward to
>watching the Olympics in HDTV. And optimistic that the dam will soon
>burst, if for no other reason than the March 2007 date for ATSC
>inclusion in all TV sets and recording devices.
>
>
>
>>In Sydney there are the government ABC and SBS running both HD
>>and multicast SD and the 7, 9, and 10 networks running both HD
>>and SD simultaneously as required by legislation.
>>
>>
>
>Over here, without any govt HD mandate, I receive 13 multiplexes, Ian,
>each one of which transmits HD much of the time. Craig says that many of
>these are duplicates much of the day? True, but I get at least seven
>multiplexes today, and hopefully nine in the near future, that are not
>duplicates. So again, there's no shortage of channels, compared with any
>other DTT system in the world. Not only that, but the HD doesn't need to
>be simulcast, because all receivers can decode the HD stream. So we
>don't waste a multicast just to transmit the HD program.
>
>My wife does make a good point, though. She says that possibly ATSC lost
>momentum when the early receivers were so bad. That makes more sense to
>me than conspiracy theories. I would hope that momentum could be
>regained with the 4th and 5th gen stuff out there, but we'll see.
>
>And finally, there is no technical reason why every single Aussie DVB-T
>STB cannot be sold in the US, in ATSC livery. None.
>
>Bert
>
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