[opendtv] Re: HD-DVD Loses Round One

  • From: "John Willkie" <johnwillkie@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 10:00:49 -0800

Did anybody note the switch?

Car and house keys protect me -- to a great extent -- from others (second
parties) with ill intents.  Copy protection is a feature in hardware that
"protects" third parties from "my" ill intents.  

Very clever analogy, Jeroen.

John Willkie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Tom Barry
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:28 AM
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: HD-DVD Loses Round One
> 
> Nonetheless, any purposefully built in restrictions on how I can choose
> to use something can only limit its potential value to me.  A seller
> might find it necessary to add those restrictions but it is the height
> of fancy to assume they don't decrease value.  All we can hope for is to
>   have those restrictions be trivial enough that buyers will put up with
> them.
> 
> Otherwise competitors (legal and otherwise) will create products without
> those restrictions, and eat your lunch.
> 
> - Tom
> 
> Jeroen Stessen wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Doug McDonald wrote:
> >  > You are thinking NOT from the point of the buyer. Copy protection
> >  > seriously reduces the value of a product.
> >
> > Huh ? And I suppose that you think that locks on the doors
> > reduce the value of a house ? Nonsense. Good copy protection,
> > that is built into a standard from the start, not as an
> > afterthought as with audio CD, is completely invisible to the
> > honest user. Until he starts handing out illegal copies.
> >
> > All this bullshit about the right to make "backups", copies
> > for the car, downsampled copies for the portable media player,
> > it is not true. The only reason for making copies is for
> > giving them away or for trading. A bit of undefeatable copy
> > protection goes a long way for reading people their rights.
> >
> > If people were honest, the lock and key would not have been
> > invented. Now count the keys in your pockets.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > -- Jeroen, who also uses DVD Decrypter on a regular basis...
> >
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> |
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> 
> --
> Tom Barry                       trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Find my resume and video filters at www.trbarry.com
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