[opendtv] Re: HD-DVD Loses Round One
- From: Jeroen Stessen <jeroen.stessen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:59:39 +0100
Hi,
Jeroen Stessen wrote:
>> Huh ? And I suppose that you think that locks on
>> the doors reduce the value of a house ? Nonsense.
Alberto:
> No, of course. But once you have bought your house, you are free to open
> or lock the doors as you please. There is no one telling you when you
> can open or close the door, or giving you curfew schedules to live by.
Okay, maybe a wrong analogy then. Buying a DVD does not give you
the original content, it gives you the right to use a copy of the
content. Maybe a better analogy is a hotel. You pay the price for
a one night stay in one room. It does not give you the right to
use the other rooms, or to let your friends in and offer them the
use of the couch or the bathroom. You can't act like you own the
hotel room for a night. If too many guests would violate this rule
then some day the hotel management would install security cameras
to protect their rights. And you will suffer.
To me, good content protection increases the value of content,
because it adds exclusivity. I would feel stupid buying a movie
for 20 dollars and then my friend tells me I could have got a
copy for 1 dollar. Likewise, you would not want to stay in a
fancy hotel if the guy next door was letting in homeless bums.
So what if you can't make all the copies that you like ? You paid
for the right to watch the movie in its intended way, and you can
even do that multiple times. A decent DVD here is about the price
of 2 or 3 movie tickets. For a ticket you only get to see the movie
once, you can't stay all day and go in and out of theaters. If you
want to see the movie in another way, you may have to pay again.
I suppose that this is all calculated into the price of the DVD.
If it allowed unlimited copying, it would have to cost a lot more.
> Imagine if the house builder, or the architect, had a remote link
> with which he could prevent you from entering your home at certain
> times. Or could prevent you from allowing guests of your choosing
> to enter. That wouldn't increase the value of the home.
But it would increase the value of the hotel...
A house you can own. Apparently you never own a movie. You don't
even own the software on the computer that you read this with,
you only have a licence to use it, and maybe for a limited time.
But the price is only a fraction of what it might have been if
it had granted you unlimited rights.
> There should absolutely never be a way for a TV station to
> successfully transmit "copy never." It's very simple. So why do
> CE manufacturers, including Philips, allow this illegal behavior?
I think that it can be summed up as "erring on the safe side of
the law". A time shift is interpreted as a copy, to avoid law
suits from content providers. Silly CE software designers...
John Willkie:
> Did anybody note the switch?
> Car and house keys protect me -- to a great extent -- from others
> (second parties) with ill intents. Copy protection is a feature
> in hardware that "protects" third parties from "my" ill intents.
And we all know that making digital copies is so trivially easy
that without content protection everybody would practice their
ill intents. I see and hear it all around me, friends telling me
how they don't buy discs anymore because they download everything.
I am quite convinced of your ill intents too, hehe. ;-)
Again: you can't act as if you own the content, because you don't.
The true owner has the right to protect _his_ property.
BTW I make the copies mostly to protect the content from the
clumsy hands of my 3 year old son. These Disney DVDs are too
expensive to be abused daily. Disney could have solved that with
an exchange system, just pay for swapping the data carrier.
But they didn't. The protection is not strong enough though.
Anyone of you coming to The Tech Retreat ? You might have a chance
to hit me with a baseball (bat).
Best regards,
-- Jeroen
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