[opendtv] Re: My Jax clear QAM HD went away

  • From: Tom Barry <trbarry@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:58:51 -0400

I'm in Atlantic Beach Florida, suburb of Jacksonville.

But as I mentioned in another post the channels may not really be
encrypted but instead moved to a new frequency (supposedly channels
63-66) that is for me filtered due to my limited basic subscription.  
Basically I only want broadband but the teaser rate for limited basic
made it worth it just for the network channels for the first
(supposedly) 6 months.

I first thought the channels were encrypted because after my attempt at
finding them on the PC I tried my Vizio TV which announced they were
encrypted.  However that was likely the result of the Comcast channel
rejiggering and I had not yet done a full channel re-scan.  After the
Vizio channel scan the HD channels are still not there but at least do
not say encrypted.    I believe Comcast changed the channel lineup
around the 15'th but I haven't had any time to watch TV and was relying
on my computer to record everything.  It seems most recordings failed
since the 15th.

I meant to call Comcast today and find out what's going on but got busy
and never got around to it.   Maybe they can swap my filters or something.

- Tom



colejd@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Tom, 
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> What market are you in, and what two stations? 
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> It is possible, as Craig writes, that retrans consent allows, but very 
> unlikely, unless these two stations are out of DMA. 
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> Most O&O's would never allow the native feed to be encrypted, and most 
> affiliates wouldn't want to give up that right, if the network even gave them 
> the option too. 
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> I would enquire with the stations if they know this is happening. 
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> The other thing that could have happened is that the cable company move the 
> content to a different QAM. This sounds to be the most possible situation 
> considering that you are talking about 2 broadcasters. Have you tried 
> re-scanning the TV? 
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> I know of some stations that gave up their rights for HD carriage in order to 
> gain out-of-market carriage, but never with a major network within their DMA. 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Craig Birkmaier" <craig@xxxxxxxxx> 
> To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:13:16 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
> Subject: [opendtv] Re: My Jax clear QAM HD went away 
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> At 9:59 PM -0400 4/27/10, Tom Barry wrote: 
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>> I've previously been skeptical here that the cable companies would start 
>> encrypting the network channels. Â But I notice today I can no longer get 
>> ABC and Fox in HD that way. Â What I hadn't considered, and what they 
>> did, is that they might keep the SD versions for limited basic customers 
>> with cable ready TV's but encrypt the HD versions. 
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> Chalk up another victim of Retransmission consent. Now that the cable 
> companies are paying the broadcaster for their content, they have 
> both the incentive, and most likely contractual rights, to limit 
> access to the HD version for customers paying those fees. The 
> lifeline customers continue to get 4:3 SD, but you must pay for 
> digital to get digital... 
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> Regards 
> Craig 
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