Yes, 1394's probably the best solution for isochronous compressed video streaming between CE devices, which I consider a problem that rarely needs solving with STBs. Works great for capturing compressed video from a digital tape camcorder to a PC for editing, for instance. Newer camcorders that use recordable disc, disk, or flash can just do file copies over USB. I consider it a low ranking feature to be able to play a DVC tape or one of the newer HD camcorder flavors through a settop box vs. uncompressed video from the same camcorder, and I doubt capture and edit of those codecs on a cable or satellite STB will be popular or practical. As for video streaming in compressed format from an STB over 1394 to other CE devices like recorders, I think that ship has already sailed and sunk. Recorders (hard drives) are built into STBs, and video is moved around the home IP network as files or RTP/IP streams. +HDMI is mandatory for basic video STB functionality. +Ethernet is the next most useful jack for both home network and Internet connectivity. +USB 2.0 is increasingly useful for plug and play devices. +1394 is mostly for digital camcorders and has been mainly displaced by the top 3 interfaces. Shortly after ATSC was "launched" and content companies were first consulted about letting their movies, etc. flow unprotected between cable boxes and ATSC receivers, and the words "Hell no" echoed in the halls of Congress and the FCC ... there was a hasty agreement to make 1394 the protected digital video interconnect for millions of alleged STBs with PODs that were supposed to fill the shelves of Circuit City years ago (and the analog spectrum was supposed to be auctioned this year for 4 trillion dollars). It wasn't my idea that it should be the one and (at the time) only required digital video output for OpenCable STBs. I'm just quoting the old plan of record. Kilroy Hughes -----Original Message----- From: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Economos Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 4:12 AM To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [opendtv] Re: New Sony COO bullish on Blu-ray All true, but don't forget, it's a also a recording interface (for which HDMI is not capable). Ron Kilroy Hughes wrote: >1394 output from cable settop boxes never made any sense anyway. >It was limited to compressed bandwidth for SD video, and it's still >limited to compressed bandwidth for HD video. A compressed display >connection is a non-starter in many ways. > >One reason is that most of the "value add" of cable (and satellite) >services, like EPGs, PVR, VOD, VOIP, email, etc. are not provided in the >MPEG transport streams relayed from broadcast networks. They are >uncompressed video/graphics rendered in the settop box. =3D20 > >You could always add a realtime MPEG-2 MP@HL encoder and 1394 on the >output of each settop box to take advantage of the piddling percentage >of "digital" displays with ATSC tuner/decoders, but then you're limited >to some arbitrary subset of image formats that might decode properly >rather than an MPEG compliant decoder, and it would cost more than the >STB and make ugly pictures worse. But, other than being a bad idea both >technically and from a business perspective, and obsolete before it's >deployed ... it's a great idea. > >The best solution is for settop boxes to output uncompressed, and these >days that means HDMI because of content protection. Displays with HDMI >input will remain useful long after various broadcast modulation and >encoding schemes are dead and gone (and same for audio). > >The current challenge with uncompressed connections is to do a good job >with the bulk of movies and dramatic TV shot at 24 frames per second and >turn that back into 1080P in today's displays, which are progressive in >nature (DLP, plasma, LCD, LCOS, SED, etc.). Raster scan displays are >becoming an historical footnote for consumer HD displays, but live on as >1080i30 signal format delivering an unknown mix of 24P and 30i to the >progressive display system. When displays throw away the repeat fields >and leave the 24P images alone, 1080P24 (with whatever display update >rate) looks great. Unfortunately, the images processors often >"deinterlace" resample, filter, and even scale up and crop (to simulate >the bezel of a cathode ray tube ... how stupid is that?). The result >looks like twitter filtered 1080i, or worse. =3D20 > >Kilroy Hughes > > =20 > =20 =20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org=20 - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.