[opendtv] Re: News: CEA FORECASTS CONSUMER ELECTRONICS REVENUE

  • From: Craig Birkmaier <craig@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 12:04:26 -0500

At 11:14 PM -0500 1/12/07, Albert Manfredi wrote:
First of all, I assume the 704 X 480 analog SD occupying 6 MHz more or less represents NTSC. So in fact, it is 704 X 480 at 60i. And for good, clear reception, in the 6 MHz channel, you need about 40 dB of C/N. Less than that and the image quality suffers very rapidly, compared with an SD 480i.

Try a more realistic raster that better reflects the frequency response of NTSC. 480 x 480 interlaced is about right.

And the video bandwidth is 4.2 MHz.

The reason why 704 (13.5 MHz sampling) is overkill for NTSC.


Compare that to 1920 X 1080 at 30p or 60i. The video bandwidth now is 31 MHz, and all you need to decode this essentially error free in a 6 MHz channel is 15 dB of C/N, give or take a few fractions of a dB. And this is very predictable, from what my STB's signal monitor tells me.

Rubbish. Take a look at a spectrum analyzer of ANY MPEG-2 encoded HD source with a bit rate of say 17Mbps (about the max video payload for ATSC). The only stuff you will see above 20 MHz is the noise from quantization errors. Black to white pixel transitions can throw some nasty high frequency spikes - these "details" were not in the source, they are artifacts of compression. The C/N of the channel is completely irrelevant to this discussion - the frequency response is no longer a function of an analog channel, it is a function of the digital encoder.

Regards
Craig



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