----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug McDonald" <mcdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 12:07 PM Subject: [opendtv] Re: Toward digital TV > Bob Miller wrote: > > >> >> I keep hoping that someone will come through and support a switch to >> COFDM and MPEG4 which is still the right thing to do. Doug McDonald wrote: > Bob, your are simply beionfg silly and a ranting kook. I have looked in the dictionary and cannot find "beionfg" anywhere. I think you meant a state of "being". I am betting that your state of being is as a VSB-phobiac and that you believe as dogma that ATSC is a product of "Intelligent Design". Before tearing down the character of posters on this list you should take a hard look at yourself in a mirror. Obviously you don't believe in "Evolution of the Species" or any kind of immediate change in your biased delusional world order. Your 'supposed' evolutionary timeline is nothing more than denial of change with the purpose of extending the life of VSB. If technical improvements to DTV aren't implemented NOW after seven years of frustration with ATSC you can look forward to its going down the road of extinction, like the DODO bird that could not master the art of flying. > The US will NEVER chenge to MPEG4, nor add it to MPEG2. It may indeed > someday add COFDM to ATSC, but not MPEG4, for free OTA use on the > channels 2-51. Someday a new type improved service will be added, > well after the analog cutoff, but it won't be DVB-T o DVB-H, nor ISDB, > noe any form of MPEG-2 or 4. Doug, I will not likely see any improved service following your suggested time line (in my lifetime). My guess is that our own CRTC will decide that following a U.S. analog cutoff and sticking to ATSC is the sure route to OTA DTV oblivion. To those of us who get their U.S. content via cable and satellite (most) it hardly matters. For those who adopt those hand held or PC based receivers, it will definitely make a difference and it is in this service that COFDM will replace analog (in Canada, at least and more likely in the U.S. as well). I have heard via the grapevine that there is something of that sort in the works at this very moment. >It will likely be COFDM of some sort ... If that is your conclusion why would it not be implemented NOW instead of waiting another 7 years for a flawed VSB modulation system to be improved. My time is short. I have no confidence that 8VSB can in any way be made to work as effectively as COFDM now or in the future. > but the coding will be MPEG-5 or MPEG-6 or some US-specific newer > form of coding. The error correction system will also be some advanced > sort with no current name. That's how far in the future. It occurs to me that viewing by DBS last night the final ABC Monday Night Football broadcast in HDTV before being relegated to subscription cable and (for me) premium tier DBS, could have made good use of MPEG 4 judging by the frequent breakups and pixelation experienced in an otherwise very high quality presentation. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: > > - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at > FreeLists.org > > - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word > unsubscribe in the subject line. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.