Macroblocking is one artifact. But I would also consider the extreme soft areas as an artifact as well. Such as when there is no detail in water splash (such as water polo, butterfly, etc.). In fact, the softening can be so bad that objects completely disappear. And there may be little to no macroblocking at times in the high motion areas, but it is also extremely blurry, such as twisting dives and sprinter's legs. This is probably just blur from slow shutter speeds and not actually a compression artifact. Dan "Manfredi, Albert E" <albert.e.manfredi@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: opendtv-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 08/22/2008 02:00 PM Please respond to opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To <opendtv@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> cc Subject [opendtv] Re: [oldvtrs] So Much for HDTV] ...Last night, I stood up close during a running portion of the decathelon. Even the runners' legs were not macroblocking. I was amazed. Before this, I inspected close up the high platform diving. Macroblocking was a real issue only during the twisting and summersaulting part of the dive, high up. When the diver was initially running down the platform, and after straightening out to get ready to hit the water, the macroblocking was either much less noticeable or not there.... Bert